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Why are most Jehovah's Witnesses former Roman Catholics?

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by Ps104_33, Jun 28, 2003.

  1. DHK

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    Adam I never said that I was perfect or infallible. We all are prone to mistakes, and I will be the first to admit it. But I do know heresy when I see it. The issue here is baptismal regeneraltion, one of the earliest heresies of the church. I know my interpretation is correct on that issue. I also know that my interpretation is correct on what it is to be saved and born again, which has also entered into this discussion. One is not born again by water, i.e. baptism. That is also a heresy.
    If you want to challenge me on these issues feel free to.
    DHK
     
  2. MEE

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    I haven't been following this topic, so if I'm wrong in understanding the above, please correct me!

    Surely DHK, you aren't saying that God doesn't include infants in salvation. :(

    MEE [​IMG]
     
  3. DHK

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    Not quite MEE. I believe that God would take an infant home to Heaven (should he die) in spite of his inability to believe, just as He did with David's infant. David's testimony was: Why should I mourn for him now. He shall not come to me, I shall go to him. David was sure that he would see his infant in Heaven. That is an example of the grace of God.
    However, there is no amount of baptizing that will get that infant to Heaven. Baptizing doesn't get anybody to Heaven--infant or adult. That is the point to be made. When we come to an age where we are able to understand the gospel we are accountable to God for ourselves to either reject the sacrifice that Christ paid for us on the cross, or accept it. That is all. If you reject it, Hell awaits you. If you accept it by faith, then the gift of God is eternal life, and that is what God has promised us.
    DHK
     
  4. Justified Saint

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    Whoa, a lot of posts here. [​IMG] I'll address it all later, firsts things first though DHK. Show me in print where it says I am a baptist in my profile. Go ahead try it.
     
  5. DHK

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    If your a Catholic why don't you admit as much on your profile? Why would a good professing Catholic be attending a Baptist Church? A little deceptive don't you think?
    DHK
     
  6. DHK

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    Justified,
    Maybe if you had filled out that last box out:
    "I am an apologist for the Roman Catholic Church," there would have been a good chance that the moderators of this board would not have given you admittance. Do you think that that is a good possibility?
    DHK
     
  7. Justified Saint

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    I think I already said why. The admin refused my registration as Roman Catholic. So on the suggestion of another I put in "born again Christian" and sure enough it worked. It's like instant food, add one drop of water. [​IMG]
     
  8. Justified Saint

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    Also, I don't attend a Baptist church. The question asks for the nearest Baptist church.
     
  9. DHK

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    Like I referred to in my previous post, I call it deception.
     
  10. Justified Saint

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    No, it's truth. Maybe I wouldn't have to be "deceptive" if the baptistboard was what is says it is.
     
  11. Daveth

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    [​IMG] I think that most Christians uniformly agree that infants are guaranteed a place in God’s kingdom.

    Deceptive (De*cep"tive) (?), a.
    [Cf. F. déceptif. See Deceive.]
    Tending to deceive; having power to mislead, or impress with false opinions; as, a deceptive countenance or appearance. "Language altogether deceptive, and hiding the deeper reality from our eyes."
     
  12. DHK

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    What does it say it is?
    A BAPTIST BOARD
    It is clear as could be. It is a board for Baptists. Out of its own grace it has allowed a forum for other religions that consider themselves Christians. This is a private board. The moderators have the right at their discretion to limit the number of any denomination that they wish. You are a guest on a private Baptist Board. You are priveleged to be here. It is not your right. It is your privilege. Please abide by the rules. You call yourself a Catholic, and are here defending the Catholic faith. Shall I ask T2U, and Brother Ed, Thessalonian, and some of the other Catholics here, their view on honesty and lying? Is lying one of the common virtues of the Catholic faith that you defend? Is deception a Catholic virtue?
    DHK
     
  13. Justified Saint

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    Thus my point is made. I was lead under the false impression that baptistboard and this particular forum was a place where ALL Christians could discuss. On the contrary, my registration was denied on the sole fact that I am a Catholic. You see gentleman, the art of deception.
     
  14. Justified Saint

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    Yes, let the record be known that I am born again and a Catholic, one in the same. It has been my understanding that in discussion on matters such as faith, it is the purpose of the debate for each side to present their case or defend it and in turn grow in understanding. I realize that some have been offended by the defense of my faith, I do apologize for that, it wasn't my intention.

    I am a deceiver and a liar and the baptistboard should do the right thing and suspend my posting powers.
     
  15. Daveth

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    I find it’s very disturbing that 'some' say that it's okay to hide ones intentions today. This is a new trend I see on Christian Message Boards all over the net, is to hide ones intentions under a false profile.
     
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    Welcome to the board Justified. It's good to have another "born again" Christian on the board.
     
  17. Justified Saint

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    Hey Carson, yeah I see them all over the place. ;)
     
  18. DHK

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    The Art of Deception:

    [QB]My religion (Baptist, Methodist, Catholic, etc.) Please be specific.:[/B] born again Christian

    My local Baptist church: First Greenway Baptist Church

    My favorite Bible verse(s): "...if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am noth

    Short personal statement of faith regarding Jesus Christ :

    MY RELIGION, giving examples and telling one to be specific does not mean born again Christian. It was specifically asking for your denomination. You were deceptive.

    MY LOCAL BAPTIST CHURCH. Here you deliberately lied to me. It does not ask for the nearest baptist church. It asks specifically for MY local baptist church. You answered Greenway Baptist Church, of which you are not a member, and therefore it is not YOUR local Baptist Church. That is not only deceptive it is an outright LIE!

    SHORT PERSONAL STATEMENT OF FAITH. This was very vague.

    All in all deception and lies all throughout.
    Are you a typical Catholic?
    DHK
     
  19. Kathryn

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    Justified Saint is a Born Again Christian and he does have a local Baptist Church. He also has been upfront about being a Catholic here. He could have tried to fool people, but didn't. From what I can see, all the Catholics here are Born Again Christians, and confess Jesus Christ as their Savior and Redeemer, Lord and God.

    God Bless
     
  20. Justified Saint

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    Sorry, I misunderstood what the question is supposedly asking. I took the question to mean where is the nearest baptist church.

    Also, in a lot of profiles people aren't specific as to their religion.

    DHK, do what you have to do. Are you going to allow a lying and deceiving Catholic to post?

    Are you a typical anti-Catholic?
     
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