Freemasonry vs. Christianity

Yes Ben, if you conduct a survey I bet you will find that MOST "Christian" Masons (not all) do not accept or interpret John 14:6 as a literal statement. And, most certainly, non-Christian Masons don't accept it at all!

To save you the hassle, visit the link below, which will take you to an area on the Ex-Masons for Jesus discussion board. It is a list of over 200 current registered users. Many Masons who visit our board do not register, because we allow people to post without registering. However, as you scroll through this list and read columns 8 & 9, you will see many registered Masons, MOST of whom answered NO to the question in column 8; which reads, "Should John 14 verse 6 be interpreted literally?"

http://www.ephesians5-11.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/kunk/discus/allusers.cgi

O.F.F.

 

Jacob, in answer to your question:

In marketing we utilize two types of research, primary and secondary research. Primary research involves going to the direct source (i.e. the target market) and collect data in order to draw conclusions based upon its findings. Secondary research involves drawing conclusions based upon indirect sources of information, such as information written by Masonic authors.

With respect to primary research, we conduct two types; qualitative and quantitive research. Qualitative research involves going to a small sample of the target market (in this case, active Freemasons) to determine "directionally" where MOST might go given a certain topic or issue. Quantitative research is done with a much larger sample size of the target market, which with statistical significance can demonstrate more precisely what the majority of the market will do on a given issue or topic.

So, although quantitative research in more conclusive, a sample size of 10 to 100 is more than sufficient to yield reasonable qualitative results.

Mike Gentry

 

Jacob, to answer you next question:

It's NOT about accepting the interpretation that makes the most sense, since Freemasonry was designed to appeal to any religious interpretation. It's NOT about the religion of the Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist or even the Christian. It's about the Religion of Freemasonry, which is "veiled in allegory and illustrated symbolically."

Accepting men of all religious persuations is simply a ploy delerberately designed to deceive the initiate into thinking that he is merely joining a fraternity of men dedicated to to ethical, educational, patriotic, and charitable endeavors. What MOST Masons ignore, or fail to see, because it is so well hidden, is the fact that there is a SECRET DOCTRINE found only in the deeper esoteric side of Freemasonry that is reserved only for the adept, sages and the elect of the Order.

Manly P. Hall put it this way:

Long ago J. D. Buck stated:

As Albert Pike once said:

And finally, in the book FREEMASONRY: ITS HIDDEN MEANING author George Steinmetz states:

So, what is this SECRET DOCTRINE in Freemasonry? The Religion of Freemasonry is the descendant, or reincarnation of the Ancient Mysteries of Egypt.

So Christian Mason, it seems you have three choices. Either you can:

1. Remain in the Lodge and remain hoodwinked by the deliberate "veil of allegory" designed to filter the Craft from the selected sages, adepts and elect of the Order.

2. Or you can remain in the Lodge and through deligent study of the occult and the ancient mysteries, along with aligning yourself with the closed network of other Masons pursuant to the same, in order to become a sage, adept or elect in Masonry.

3. Or after acknowledging these facts, and examining them in light of Biblical truth, resign from the Lodge, renounce the teachings of Freemasonry, repent and renew your relationship with God and your commitment to the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Which do you choose?

Mike Gentry

 

Jacob said:

Wayne tried this tactic; it didn't work for him, and it won't work for you either. So, let me address it once and for all.

No Jacob, I didn't claim to be a Mason, I WAS a Mason. And, because I KNEW the right answers to questions that allowed me to gain access, I did so in order to seek to witness to Masons who showed some doubts about their involvement in Freemasonry. While my intentions were good, in retrospect I realized that I was wrong. This incident occurred over a year ago, and at that time, I acknowledged publicly over the Worldwide Web -- in both Masonic and Christian circles -- that this manner in which I tried to reach Masons, was not entirely honest.

It has been acknowledged by Masons and Christians alike, that the way in which I resolved my wrong doing was a true model of Christian repentance. If you want to try to mislead this forum, as Wayne did, in an attempt to tarnish my character, it isn't going to work. My confession to God, my restitution to those I wronged, and my subsequent repentance has cleared my conscience of any guilt (Romans 8:1). God has forgiven me (John 1:9), and that's all that matters to me.

You know that this public repentance of mine is a matter of fact, and can be substantiated by prominent Masons, like author & speaker Stephen Dafoe and others who are aware of this incident. So, as you so often taunt, stick to the topic and stop the personal attacks! Unless you wish to have me re-visit your collaboration with Wayne in deceiving the members of this forum.

O.F.F.

[ September 03, 2004, 02:17 PM: Message edited by: O.F.F. ]

 

Jacob asked:

I NEVER claimed to have conducted a survey, I simply pointed to an online source that has a list of registered guests who are supposed to be Masons. Whether they are really Masons or not, is not the issue. We assume they are, and as they acknowledge themselves as such, you seem to recognize them to be Masons too, based on your posts and replies to theirs.

That list of Masons is a RANDOM sample. We never solicited any of them to register on our board. That's what proper primary research should include, a random sample. If your 100 Christians are not selected randomly, than the results of your research would be biased.

Cordially,

Mike Gentry

 

Jacob,

Please don't try to reel me into some merry-go-round of red herrings. I told you before, I'd much rather post here in response to genuine inquires about the world's largest cult. I do not wish to be the only respondent to a couple of Masons that remain in denial, such as yourself.

The extend to which I have read the books I quote from is not the issue. What matters is what these eminent Masons have to say about the Order. Refute their claims if you can, as you do, please provide solid evidence rather than your own personal conjecture.

Just remember, these are their claims, NOT mine or the Order of FORMER Freemasons. I just tend to agree with them about what Freemasonry truly is. And, I thank God everyday, that He didn't allow me to get so deeply involved. Otherwise, I might have become an adept or sage of Masonry along with them.

That's a scary thought, because as I look at it now from a biblical perspective, I believe they are ultimately serving Satan.

By the way, FREEMASONRY: ITS HIDDEN MEANING by George H. STEINMETZ is available online at:

http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/steinmetzfr.html

However, I caution you and other Masons who may decide to read it, as it could do well to entice you to pursue the very course in which it was designed to lead you to embrace.

Sincerely in Christ,

Mike Gentry

 

Jacob,

Like I said, you are now using a red herring. In this case, you are suggesting that I can only form an opinion about a subject only if I have read everything written about it in its entirety.

Have you read the Bible in its entirety cover to cover? I have, twice in my lifetime. But, I'd be naive to suggest that I am now a biblical expert. However, I am confident that I can recognize a counterfeit the moment I notice it bloom on the horizon. Freemasonry and all its teachings are just that, a countfeit gospel designed to distract and lead men away from the true light of the world -- Jesus Christ (John 8:12).

Have you read these books I quote? If not, start with FREEMASONRY: ITS HIDDEN MEANING by George H. Steinmetz and tell me what you think. Than go to Morals & Dogma by Albert Pike. Better yet, go to Pike's book entitled, "Magnum Opus," which is another one I've read, and tell me about the Satanic references made therein.

I don't need to prove to you how much of these books I've read. As a Christian Mason who chooses to defend the teachings of Freemasonry, you need to prove these Masonic brethren of yours to be wrong about Masonry. Can you do that? I have challenged YOU to refute their claims. If you can, do so, or stop trying to divert attention to what they have to say about your "fraternity."

O.F.F.