how the men dress

That was a joke.

 

Helen --

I think we all knew it was initially a joke, but there
are concerns. We are usually, for the greater
part of us, knowledgeable enough to understand
the practices of other peoples; however, we are
talking about the Bible and Judeo-Christian ethics
and responses to that culture in mostly Western
nations.

Abby --

Re the fire fighters' calendar, I haven't seen the
inside of one, but I did see the outside of one in
a book store, and I have heard the talk. I don't
know how far they go, but with today's attitudes, I
would doubt nothing.

 

Do you want to hear my pet peeve?? Yes you say? Ok, here it is......It drives me insane when you see certain denoms and right away you see the women and you know instantly what denom they are, but you look at the men and they look no different than a dozen other denoms.....also....I hate it when I visit certain Baptist churches and the pastor is dressed fit to kill....looks like a tv evangelist, but you look at his wife and bless her heart, she looks like she was dressed off the clearance rack at wal-mart.

Cindy

 

Her husband would probably just sell her new dress in a resale shop and then buy himself a new silk tie!!

Cindy

 

Not sure what Baptist churches you are visting but most preachers I know wear Sears and Penney's suits and their wives have clothes from there as well. I usually get my suits at Shepler's and sometimes I get hand me downs from my 29 year old son.

Had you said AoG or large SBC churches I would have understood. A woman can be modest in more expensive clothes it is jsut harder because designer clothes are usually made for sex appeal and hence immodest. Exposed cleavage and long slits are not modest.

 

While we are at it, at 273 lbs I have some liberty to say this. Most women do themselves an injustice in pants. Large tushies and thighs fare better in a dress than pants. I try to hide my "love" handles. Women with 3 rolls and yard wide backsides need to find looser attire. And I don't mean jogging suits as I have seen plenty of those in church. Those who have the shape for pants should not wear them because that shape is for you, your husband and God not for every Tom, Dick and Harry to drool over. If ya got it, don't flaunt it, hide your treasure.

 

Maverick, so am I to assume that you think large men would look better in a dress?

Cindy

 

Getting back to the first post on this thread, I thought "that is something I've wondered about myself, Why the tie? Who thought of this and why?" Why do they seem to strangle the wearer...and who cares if buttons show? If they weren't meant to show...shouldn't shirts just be made with a placket to cover them? Who was behind this fashion statement? And why on earth...do they still exist today?
Here's a link to the history of the tie.

As to designs on ties...that is the only place a man is free to show anything about himself really. I mean...what does a cartoon tie say about the wearer? What about a bow tie? That is the reason why tie's really shouldn't ever be given as a gift.

Clothing should have a purpose..to cover you, to keep you warm or cool. As the history of the tie will prove...vanity was the ties original purpose...decoration and adornment. So is it manly to wear a tie? Is it Christian to wear a tie? Do the people that think they are...have any idea where they originated or for what purpose?

Now about suit coats and shorts..... just kidding.

Laurenda

[ March 23, 2003, 05:16 PM: Message edited by: Wisdom Seeker ]

 

My husband wears the clip-on ties, but they are difficult to find and when I find them, they are usually rather dull, no veggie tale ones.

 

It's been my experience that it's his wife who dresses him, buys his clothes, and then arranges them in the closet the go together, helps choose the tie. If she is dresses as you say it is probably becasue he is faithful in being God's minister and works for a little money, not enought to take proper care of her, and she sacrifices herself so her preacher husband can look appropriate in public. So don't blame him, he is being faithful, how about the people underpaying him just becasue he'll work there for that, taking advsntage of his faithfulness to God, at the expense of his family. God may put it on your heart so that your the one He will use to help supply their need and buy her a nice dress for church.

 

HCL, are you saying women are never enticed by men and what they wear? That women never lust after men? Thast just not true.
And the bible does not say women are not enticed to lust after men.
Just because yu haven't found an admonition about women and lust doesn't mean it doesn't exsist, or that it's alright to do it. No more so then for men that is, and we know thats wrong.

 

Abby, firemens calendar,, actual firemen wearing some of, but not all of their firemen gear, posed in sexy alluring poses.Usually n shirt, big muscles. Now someone tell me women don't lust. If they didn't there would be no mnarket for these, and they are hot sellers, which is why you don't see them that often. I've only seen them on tv, have no idea where a person woulld find one.

 

rsr, you could teach my husband how, he only wears a tie when he has to for choir, like when they do musicals, never gets it right, just passable.
If they were s uncomfortable I wouldn't wear one. Which is why he doesn't.

 

No, that's not what she said at all. She said the Scriptures repeatedly warn men (as opposed to women) not to be taken by the lust of the eyes.

We all know women can succumb to the lust of the eyes. And when the woman saw that the tree was ... pleasant to the eyes... Gen. 3:6.

HCL made an excellent point. The pattern followed by the Holy Spirit in the Scriptures is to warn the men. I think that is significant and is pertinent to the discussion at hand.

So far, the dress-only camp has scored two big points:</font>

• The definition of the word "apparel."</font>
• The tendency of men to be taken by the lusts of the eyes.</font>

My wife wears pants. I've tried to imagine pants that are "long, loose and flowing," and in my mind they look like a dress. I gave it some real thought, and no matter how you cut them, pants that look like pants cannot be described as "flowing." Maybe someone can point me to a pic on the web of pants that look like pants that I might describe as "flowing."

So here's the task for the dress AND pants folks:</font>

• Counter HCL with repeated warnings in the Scriptures for women not to be enticed by a man's attire</font>
• A rational definition of the word "apparel" supported by a consensus of Greek scholars.</font>

 

No, I was bringinng up what the Scriptures say
with regard to clothing, nakedness, etc. 8o)

I am not sure the rest of your note was to me, but
since there was no break, I must assume so. 8o)
Not once have I advocated that girls must wear or
not wear certain modern clothing nor that boys
must; neither have I said that men or women must.
Rather, I have said that we all need to cover up, to
understand the biblical definition of nakedness and
act accordingly. Societal norms should never
influence how we obey the Bible or whether or not
we do.