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TR agrees with the CT!

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by DeclareHim, Feb 3, 2006.

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    After doing some research I thought it was interesting that sometimes the TR/CT agree and they disagree with the Majority text :eek: . Here is a list of the places of disagreement.

    Matthew 3:11 "MT: Spirit, – TR/ CT: Spirit and in fire"

    Matthew 4:10 "MT: away behind Me Satan – TR/ CT: away Satan"

    Matthew 5:47 " MT: friends – TR/ CT: brothers"

    Matthew 10:28 "MT: {the} – TR/ CT: omit (twice)"

    Matthew 11:8 "MT: royal houses. – TR/ CT: houses of the kings."

    Matthew 12:32 "12:32 MT: the present age – TR/ CT: this age"

    Matthew 13:24 "MT: sowing – TR/ CT: having sown"

    Matthew 13:28 "MT: we will gather – TR/ CT: we shall gather"

    Matthew 15:25 "MT: she prostrated – TR/ CT: she began prostrating"

    Matthew 17:27 "MT: going up – TR/ CT: having gone up"

    Matthew 19:5 " MT: {his} father – TR/ CT: the father"

    Matthew 20:2 " MT: And – TR/ CT: Now"

    Matthew 21:3 " MT: he [will] send – TR/ CT: he will send"

    Matthew 22:7 "MT: And that king – TR/ CT: Now the king"

    Matthew 23:25 "MT: unrighteousness. – TR/ CT: lack of self-control."

    Matthew 23:26 " MT: you* that all– TR/ CT: you*, all"

    Matthew 26:17 "MT: we will prepare – TR/ CT: we shall prepare"

    Matthew 26:23 " MT: {yet} – TR/ CT: omit"

    Matthew 26:35 " MT: shall I deny – TR/ CT: will I deny

    MT: And likewise – TR/ CT: Likewise"

    Matthew 26:38 "MT: Jesus says – TR/ CT: He says"

    Matthew 26:39 "MT: Jesus says – TR/ CT: He says"

    Matthew 26:52 " MT: will die – TR/ CT: will themselves perish"

    Matthew 26:61 "MT: But later two false witnesses having come forward, – TR/ CT: Moves this phrase to the end of verse 60"

    Matthew 26:70 "MT: them all – TR/ CT: all"

    Matthew 26:71 ": to them – TR/ CT: to the [ones] there"

    Matthew 27:41 " MT: and Pharisees – TR/ CT: omit"

    Matthew 28:19 "MT: When – TR/ CT: Therefore, when 28:19
    MT: When – TR/ CT: Therefore, when"
     
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  2. Phillip

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    That is interesting, but not really suprising considering that each group of texts were compilations using multiple (and sometimes the same) texts. Each was also created using differences in scholrship.
     
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    I don't want to start any kind of argument but I would like to know what Ruckman,Gipp,Riplinger, Waite would feel about the above. Their hated CT agrees with their beloved TR. But honestly those that claim the TR is a representitive of the Byzantine text what would they do with this evidence?
     
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    Thank you for the link. Here is some more examples in the Gospel of Mark.

    Mark 2:8 "MT: _they_ are reasoning – TR/ CT: they are reasoning"

    Mark 3:27 "MT: he shall plunder – TR/ CT: he will plunder"

    Mark 5:16 "MT: Now – TR/ CT: And"

    Mark 5:38 "MT: commotion, weeping – TR/ CT: commotion and weeping"

    Mark 6:28 "MT: So … prison. – TR/ CT: move this sentence to the end of 6:27, and CT has And for So."

    Mark 9:22 "MT: the fire – TR/ CT: fire"

    Mark 9:40 "MT: you* – TR/ CT: us (twice)"

    Mark 10:25 "MT: a camel to enter – TR/ CT: camel to pass"

    Mark 10:29 "MT: {for the sake of} the Gospel – TR/ CT: for the sake of the Gospel"

    Mark 10:33 "MT: scribes – TR/ CT: to the scribes"

    Mark 12:43 "MT: having put – TR/ CT: putting"

    Mark 13:21 "MT: stop believing – TR/ CT: you* shall not believe"

    Mark 14:31 "MT: shall I deny – TR/ CT: will I deny"

    Mark 14:35 "MT: having approached [God] a little [distance away] – TR/ CT: having gone a little beyond [them]"

    Mark 14:51 "MT: followed – TR/ CT: was following"

    Mark 15:18 "MT: the King – TR/ CT: King"

    Mark 15:24 "MT: they divide – TR/ CT: they began dividing"

    Mark 15:32 " MT: {in Him} – TR/ CT: omits"

    Mark 16:1 "MT: {the} [mother] – TR/ CT: the [mother]"
     
    #5 DeclareHim, Feb 7, 2006
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    And the Byzantines agree with the CT against the TR on occasion also. But the Byz agrees with the TR against the CT on far more occasions. Eclectic texts like the CT, by their very nature, cannot close themselves off to the Byz entirely, because many times the correct reading appears to be in the Byz.
     
    #6 Bluefalcon, Feb 10, 2006
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