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Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Rippon, Feb 9, 2006.

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  1. Rippon

    Rippon Well-Known Member
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    people with English as their second language . I am an Ameican living in South Korea . This mainly concerns adults using an English translation . Though they have and use several Korean Bibles , it seems that those who are serious about what the Bible really means want an English Bible . Now I think that the Lord can make it possible for someone of another language to understand it in their native tongue . Nontheless they ( esp. 20-somethings ) really give a concerted effort to master an easier English version . In my church there are mostly Koreans and a handful of native English speakers . We have an American Pastor who preaches from the KJV . ( Not a good idea to go through several layers of understanding to arrive at biblical truth . But he is a sincere and godly man and the Lord can do more than what we can imagine ) . Next to him is a Korean man who translates . Most of the Korean congregation has an NIV Explanation Bible . The text is in both the NIV and Korean with key words or thoughts explained in Korean down below .

    The NLV is popular here . But the text is a little difficult for even the better English speakers ( believe it or not ) . I appreciate that version . TEV, which I have never owned , is another very well-liked version here. But some concepts get muted-down somewhat . I just bought a NIrV on Tuesday . It is better than I expected . I have been checking it out and will do some comparisons . It would not be my choice for an adult native speaker , however . I do not have a CEV or any other simplified versions . Now don't be dismissive and say you don't believe in dumbed-down Bibles . This post mainly concerns the English Bible needs of a non-native speaker .

    But for those of you with children under 10 -- what Bible translations have you given them ? How are they doing with it ? I personally was raised with the KJV . I went thru the older NAS , MLB and NIV in early adulthood .
     
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    I have my kids read out of the NIV for their personal devotional time(although I'm thinking of switching them to the NLT as it reads very nicely and is still a good translation). When they hit 12-15 yrs. old I will have them do most of their study and memorization out of a NKJV or ESV - their choice. They will still be welcome to read the NIV or NLT for personal time though.

    Todd
     
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    I read to my kids from the NASB and NKJV, but as they grew older, I introduced them to the older versions. I explained to them that there were several versions because many Greek & Hebrew words/phrases have several possible English renderings, much was left to translators' choices, & that's why they should read as many versions as possible.
     
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    Rippon,
    thanks for your post. I am a Korean living in Toronto. I understand your difficulty because there are certain problems with Bible Versions there. In general Korean bible which is mostly popular there is rather similar to NIV with some modification, published by Bible Society of Korea. However if you take KJV with Korean KJV, then the problems are much reduced. But I don't expect the most audience accept the change to K-KJV.
    It is good that you have a very sound preacher based on KJV as NIV differs from KJV in thousand spots only in New Testament, except OT.
    My recommendation is to use NKJV even though there are some verses where NKJV differs from KJV, because NKJV is far better than NIV. Most Koreans use NIV for their reference in English.
    It will be too difficult for the kids to understand KJV. Also, the beginners in English will have a problem in reading KJV. If anyone wants to check the doctrinal issues, KJV may be the right choice.
    There are 2 versions of KJV in Korean there.
    I think Korea has the second largest demand for the Bible in the world, next to North America as more than 1 million Bibles are sold in Korea every year. But the most of the bible is similar to NIV which has many omissions and mistranslations.
    In such case, the preacher or teacher must understand the difference between 2 groups fully before they present the gospel message. In studying the difference for preparation you will be blessed very much.
    In Mt 16:22, KJV says Peter began to rebuke him (Jesus). Korean Bible says Peter appealed Him.
    This makes Jesus look very much strict and horrible teacher when He rebuked Peter saying " Get thee behind Satan!"
    This happens because in oriental society, Rebuking the teacher by a disciple is not acceptable according to Confucianism.
    There are much more problems with the Korean Bible there. It omits 36 verses in 14 spots of NT.,while Mt 24:35 says heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
    NIV doesn't confess such omission but Korean Bible confess it. So, in Mt 23:14, you can notice (disappeared). Also, you can find (disapppeared) in Mt 17:21, Mt 18:11, Mark 9:44, 9:46, 11:26, 15:28, Luke 17:36, 23:17 Acts 8:37, 15:34, 28:29, Romans 16:24. Partial omissions are as many as hundreds. NIV has the same omissions too and therefore Korean Bible society is promoting NIV instead KJV.
    Mark 10:24 says " it is difficult to enter the Kingdom of God"while KJV states it is difficult for them who trust in the riches to enter the Kingdom of God !
    If you compare Acts 9:5-6 carefully, then you will find the blessings.
    If you need more Info, please contact me at
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    God bless.
     
    #4 Eliyahu, Feb 9, 2006
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