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Johnson & Johnson's (J&J) decision to include homosexual "domestic partners"

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by dianetavegia, Feb 12, 2003.

  1. dianetavegia

    dianetavegia Guest

    Wednesday, February 12, 2003
    Johnson & Johnson policy redefines marriage and family
    Dear OneMillionMoms.com member:

    I am profoundly disappointed in Johnson & Johnson's (J&J) decision to include homosexual "domestic partners" in its benefit plan for employees. Put plainly and simply, the move redefines and cheapens the institution of marriage.

    Here is a portion of an internal memo distributed yesterday by J&J:

    To address the increasingly diverse needs of our employee population, Johnson & Johnson is pleased to offer domestic partner benefits to all active Choices-eligible employees effective April 1, 2003.

    BENEFITS OFFERED
    Specifically, the following benefits will be offered to the same and opposite sex domestic partners (and their eligible dependent children) of active Choices-eligible full-time and part-time employees scheduled to work 19 hours or more per week:


    Medical Coverage

    Dental Coverage

    Dependent Accident Insurance

    Dependent Life Insurance
    ELIGIBILITY AND CERTIFICATION
    To be eligible for coverage on April 1, 2003, an employee and domestic partner must meet certain eligibility criteria (e.g. have lived together for at least 12 months, etc.) and the employee must certify that he/she and his/her domestic partner meet those criteria.
    These health benefit plans have traditionally been reserved for the spouses and families of employees. With this move, J&J has clearly expressed that its corporate policy now equates two homosexual lovers shacking up together with a husband and a wife living in holy matrimony. This is a slap in the face of true families.

    J&J's actions demonstrate a profound disrespect for God. Contrary to what some in corporate America may think, the Lord God Almighty was the one who defined and instituted marriage and the family. By pretending to have the authority to redefine those two institutions, J&J has thumbed its nose at God.

    Send your email urging J&J to rescind the decision to include "domestic partners" in its benefit plan for employees. It is critical that J&J hears from you regarding corporate decisions that affect the traditional American family. Let J&J know that equating homosexual lovers with traditional married couples will be an insult to millions of faithful consumers. After you send your letter, remember to forward this to a friend!

    J&J is one of the world's largest health care product makers. Be sure to identify yourself as a consumer if you use any of these J&J products: Tylenol, Motrin analgesics, Reach toothbrushes, Band-Aid bandages, anemia drug Procrit, epilepsy medication Topamax, and Ortho-Novum oral contraceptives. They own ACUVUE contact lenses, surgical instruments, and joint replacements.

    Send Your Johnson & Johnson Letter Now!
    http://www.onemillionmoms.com/TakeAction.asp?id=67

    Sincerely,


    Donald E. Wildmon, Chairman
    OneMillionMoms.com
     
  2. rufus

    rufus New Member

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    I too am profoundly disappointed with J & J's decision.

    Thanks for the info.

    Rufus :(
     
  3. stubbornkelly

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    Hmm, what products does J&J make? I'll have to go buy some.
     
  4. John Wells

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    Thanks for the heads up. I signed a petition! [​IMG]
     
  5. post-it

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    So are we saying that children (also dependents) of homosexuals should have less rights than the children of hetrosexual parents that work for J&J?
    Should J&J punish those children for their parents "sin"? If homosexuality is a sin, should we also stop the employee benefits from all parents since everyone sins? Should homosexuals and other sinners be punished by corporate america?

    I guess I have a real problem with companies or the government acting as Sin Punishment agents for God. I think that should be left to personal conviction by the holy spirit and the church.
     
  6. LadyEagle

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    I guess I have a problem with anybody who buckles to pressure from the pro-gay, anti-traditional family, pro-left agenda.

    But when I can help it, my $$ won't support them.

    Thanks for the heads up about J&J! [​IMG]
     
  7. Johnv

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    I've never cared one way or another about how a private company doles out benefits. That's why they're called "benefits".

    However, if I can expound, I personally think that, if a company is going to offer benefits to domestic partners, they should also offer benefits to non-married persons in one's household. (for example, if my brother or mother was living with me, I should be able to put them on my insurance). Just my $.02.

    My company offers benefits strictly to spouses and children, and our rates are incredibly high. It's been suggested that, if they get more people into the plan, the rates will lower. I know they're looking at the numbers right now.
     
  8. Paul of Eugene

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    Over and over we get offended by companies offering health insurance. We could short-circuit the motivation for recognizaing homosexual partners by offering universal health insurance for all. This would not be a statement for or against homosexuality and would eliminate this alledged justification for recognizing same sex partners!
     
  9. stubbornkelly

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    Or get the government out of the marriage business(!). Or eliminate insurance bennies.


    Or just let companies decide to whom they will offer benefits and let it lie.
     
  10. Acts 1:8

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    I call upon all liberals to resign thier jobs as politicians, preachers, and corporate officers. [​IMG]
     
  11. Gina B

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    Look at the other issue in it too folks, apart from the same sex part of it.
    It's also less pressure for heterosexual people to marry. More and more, they're being given the benefits usually given to married couples. More and more, being married is less beneficial financially than being unmarried.
    :(
    Gina
     
  12. I Am Blessed 24

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    Eliminate insurance bennies? Kelly, you must be independantly wealthy. Most of us would be bankrupt after one hospital stay without insurance!

    J & J is NOT the government. Thank God we have the right in this country to boycott businesses.

    Petition signed Diane: Thanks for the info! Always glad to fight against sin! (Not as I define sin; but as God defines sin).

    No matter how much the liberals and sodomists try to get rid of the verses condemning sodomy or try to twist them around to make them sound good; it won't change God's Word or His intentions.

    How smart does a person have to be to read, "Thou shalt not...", and realize that's exactly what He means!? :confused:

    Sue
     
  13. stubbornkelly

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    I'm hardly independently wealthy. Eliminating bennies doesn't mean eliminating insurance. Sorry if that was confusing. I was just trying to think of some less divisive options. And I'm not in favor of universal healthcare. When it comes to offering health insurance bennies, I'm more of an all or nothing kind of girl.

    It's true, private companies aren't the government. But in this case, I think the government should follow some private companies' lead . . .
     
  14. I Am Blessed 24

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    If there is one thing that I do NOT need in my life; it is more government interference. On the other hand; if people would follow God's instruction manual, the government would not have to step in nearly as much as they do.

    I'm surprised at what you said in the above quote because in an earlier post you suggested the government stay OUT of marriages??? (which is what this thread was about...sodomite marriages)

    :rolleyes:
    Sue
     
  15. stubbornkelly

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    I do support the government getting out of marriages. I was speaking in that last post on a more general note. The point of J&J's decision is to be less discriminatory, and that's what I think our government needs to do. Not by creating more marriage/domestic partner laws to include people, necessarily, but by getting out of it all together.

    However, the "getting out of marriage" position is not a popular one. So, if the government doesn't want to get out of the marriage making business, I do think they should permit domestic partnerships to those who choose that route. Again, that's if they won't get out of the marriage business.

    And that's a discussion, maybe, for another thread. I was trying to stay on topic, but somehow went askew. [​IMG]
     
  16. The_Narrow_Road

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    You people better leave the Johnson name alone. :mad: joking!

    I don't know if I am any relation to that company or not, maybe I will be contacted about an inheritance from a late great uncle who was a big-wig in the company. [​IMG]

    Seriously, it only shows that this world, especially America will conform to every sinful act under the sun. :(

    Judgment day is coming. The wrath of our God is upon the sinner. He will judge the quick and the dead. The quick unto life eternal. The dead unto death eternal.

    May all the unsaved repent unto God for it is He and He alone that they have sinned against. May they put their faith in the Only Begotten of the Father unto Salvation. [​IMG]
     
  17. Johnv

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    which is what this thread was about...sodomite marriages

    As discussed in another topic (which was deleted), sodomy is a completely different issue. Many Godly spouses are sodomites, and aren't in sin.
     
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    As a J&J employee, I am not in support for their insurance policy, HOWEVER, I do know that J&J is a good company. J&J has many Christian employees and managers. I know for one, I have spent hours upon hours on my job researching teenage pregnancy statistics and sex education research in order to write letters to legislators about advocating abstinense only sex education programs in the public schools. Our company is of the world, yes, so therefore it will have worldly policies. But for the Christians with in my company we strive to change the world using J&J as a resource to share Jesus.
    I think the idea of boycotting J&J is ridiculous by the way...how about we go ahead and boycott every item in the secular world?
     
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    Paul of Eugene said:

    There's a novel idea -- dating back to Harry Truman. It's a shame that providing decent medical care should be so controversial.
     
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