What's with the CBF ?

Matt and Narrow,

Campolo claimed that he leaned on a man during a flight and thereby conveyed Christ's love to him, without saying a word. That is not evangelism. That is channeling.

If a perfect stranger leaned on me during an airplane flight I'd be asking to move to another seat.

The rest of what Campolo said was so meaningless that I don't even remember it.

Mark Osgatharp

 

His "sermon" at this year's CBF meeting was horrible. Inane drivel sounds about right.

 

What is wrong with red & white outfits? And what is an "abnormal" shaped guitar? Instruments come in all shapes. Is an upright piano "abnormal" shaped compared to a grand piano?

 

Oh? You were at the annual meeting this year?

 

What is wrong with red & white outfits? And what is an "abnormal" shaped guitar? Instruments come in all shapes. Is an upright piano "abnormal" shaped compared to a grand piano? </font>[/QUOTE]ColoradoFB,

Don't you know that red and white are the Devil's colors and that geometric shaped guitars and wicked? ;0)

Mark Osgatharp

 

Mark,

Thanks for clearing that up for me!

 

Here's one person's review of Campolo's sermon. He didn't seem to think it was drivel.

From the sound of it, I would have probably appreciated it, even though I might not agree with every point.

What kind of Baptists are we?
By John Roy
June 30, 2003

We have been saying for some time we are a different kind of Baptist. This year at our annual meeting we verified it. Observers will say we are different because we believe God calls and gifts both women and men to lead congregations or because we do not have a creed. We promote how we are different by speaking of soul freedom and church autonomy. Yet this year in Charlotte we discovered what makes us different from other baptist is not our theology, methodology, or worship but our respect for our differences.

To be sure Tony Campolo was an equal opportunity offender. What will make the headlines is how he offended Tim LeHay, Jerry Jenkins, Al Mohler, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and opposed positions supported by the Southern Baptist Convention. While he did step on the toes of absentee’s his boldest remarks were reserved for us on the convention floor.

Campolo scolded us for abandoning the bible. We think we haven’t but we hesitate to say, “the Bible says” because we might be considered narrow minded. Instead we appeal to our baptist heritage. Campolo lamented how we neglect the poor so we can ride in BMW’s. Furthermore he raked us over the coals for being silent concerning proposed peace in the Middle East. He even offended us when he mentioned homosexuality, how dare an invited guest bring up such an uncomfortable subject. This is what we get when we invite prophets and not diplomats to our meetings.

Our Assembly is not a gathering of like-minded believers. We have some real tension on many of these issues, real differing of opinions. We heard a prophet telling us we are rich and we need to help the poor at the same time we were remembering the words of our financial advisor, “if you are going to retire you’ve got some ground to make up.” Listening to Campolo was like a trip to the dentist; it hurt, he made us squirm, we couldn’t wait for the visit to be over, but we knew we needed to go.

Here is where our different style of being Baptist shine brightest. Our reaction to such tension and chastisement was not division and cover-up but reflection and unity. We want to hear the word of the Lord even if it is hard to digest. Thus instead of preparing a press release to minimize criticism from our opponents we reflected on how we need to change and repent. We are not interested in uniformity, we showed in Charlotte we can live with tension and even grow from it.

Our reaction to tension and our respect for each other is what makes us different. We differ on the use of war as a solution to rid the world of terrorism. We differ on how big government should be. We differ on our views concerning homosexuality. Our reaction to these differences is respect. We are humble enough to confess, God has not spoken to us through a burning bush, although he has spoken to us through a passionate Italian, thus our opinion of truth is no more divine than our sisters or brothers in Christ.

In spite of our differences on issues we are in agreement that Jesus is the answer. We agree the hope for tomorrow is not politics, not denominations, and not man-made programs, but Jesus.


http://www.cbfmf.net/newsstand/cbfnews.cfm?ForumId=2941&action=1

 

Sure sounds proud to me.

Sure sounds proud to me.

Paul said that differences of opinion about spiritual matters was a sign of spiritual immaturity (I Corinthians chapters 1-3). He also said that tolerance for sexual immorality is a sign of pride (I Corinthians 5).

Sound like a proud bunch of people to me. Not suprising considering the intellectual elitist mentality of the CBF sort.

Mark Osgatharp

 

Oh? You were at the annual meeting this year? </font>[/QUOTE]No, but I listened to the tapes from the meeting.

Is that good enough for you?

 

Baptist Believer,

This is a shing example of the feigned humility, infidelity, and unbiblicalness of the CBF.

The opening words of Hebrews declare that, while God has in times past spoken in divers ways through the prophets - which statement must include the burning bush experience of Moses - that he has, in these last days, spoken unto us throught His Son.

If Mr. Roy's words mean anything, they mean that the words of Jesus are more obscure than those given to Moses. Now where is the humility in saying that Jesus was less clear in His declarations than Moses?

One of the major points of the book of Hebrews is that if the Jews were punished for despising the words of Moses, how much more sorely will Christians be punished if they despise the words of Christ. And that is not even to mention the fate of those who reject Christ altogether.

Nope, I've not had a burning bush experience either. I've had a face to face encounter with the Son of God and that is why I can't have anything to do with the likes of the CBF, or even the SBC for that matter.

Mark Osgatharp

 

Oh? You were at the annual meeting this year? </font>[/QUOTE]No, but I listened to the tapes from the meeting.

Is that good enough for you? </font>[/QUOTE]Sure, that's good enough.

I was just interested to know if you were at the meeting.