Which biblical laws must a Christian obey to be right with God?

I answered the moral laws. Could not put down New Testament laws, because they are not very thorough. Abortion, for example, is not directly mentioned in the New Testament.
Really there are two to keep: Love the Lord with all you heart, mind and strength, Love your neighbor as yourself. If you adhere to these two, all else will fall into place.

 

Since there are Calvinists, those who are Calvinistic, Arminians, and holiness-Arminians on this board, I wonder if you couldnot define "right with God." Do you intend:</font>

• in order to be saved</font>
• in order to "stay saved"</font>
• in order to live the minimal life of a believer</font>
• in order to maximize your life as a believer</font>
• in order to somewhat please our God</font>
• in order to completely please our God</font>
• or something else?</font>

 

Amen!

The new life in Christ is superior to any laws. When we live by and through faith in Christ, we not only surpass the demands of the old laws, but we live in a way that pleases God and renews our minds and bodies.

 

"If I keep the whole law, and break it in one point, I am guilty of all"
(Parrowphrase of James 2v10)

The law has nothing to do with me being right with God - nothing.

 

The just shall live by faith.

HankD

 

Unfortunately, I have seen many who forget that, while "the just shall live by faith," "faith without works is dead." While works cannot save and will not "keep" one saved, those who truly believe respond to that belief by being obedient to the One in whom they have faith.

 

In that case, if the Corinthians did what Paul instructed in I Cor. 5 and threw out the man who "had his father's wife," they were wrong, since they had no more authority to condemn his actions than he had to condemn theirs? </font>[/QUOTE]By throwing out this church member, there is no 'condemnation' declared upon his eternal position in Christ. This is a disciplinary action which says I am not walking according to the vocation to which I have been called. By continuing in this sin there is sin in the camp, and we are (as a church) unable to go forth unto the battle.

In putting this person out of the congregation we make a statement regarding the loss of fellowship (fall from 'grace') but cannot pretend this is a mark that forever casts them away from God. It is for the purpose of leading the person into repentance and restoring them to the fellowship of the Holy Spirit and likewise to the body.

God Bless
Bro. Dallas

 

Thanks Bro Dallas, you beat me to it .

Roger

 

I simply insist that all who are saved are sinners saved by Grace alone through faith alone. I have no way aside from outward fruit of the spirit to project my opinion of their eternal position in Christ upon them.

I can withold fellowship from any person who is not walking worthy of their Christian calling,

Let everyone who nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity,

However, I am not the eternal judge in these things and though if followed appropriately Grace seasons all disciplinary actions regretfully required by local bodies of believers, there is not 'guarantee' that sometimes the 'discipline' is not 'politically' motivated. Great care must be excercised in matters like these, Paul was inspired by the Holy Spirit, as was each of the Apostles, thus Peter was able to rebuke Annanias and Sapphira his wife because he was able to see the motivations of their heart, then there is Simon the sorcerer as well.

We do not have that ability. But we are able to say in brotherly love and according to proper Biblical standards, dear Brother Dallas, the body has heard this charge against you, where the investigation is able to be proved against me then the body separates me from itself, where not, then this action is not taken.

The main point is to witness the renewal of fellowship of a professed child of God to the body after observing fruit of repentance which first renews fellowship with this person and the Holy Spirit.

God Bless
Bro. Dallas

 

The question is what kind of works? Works of the law, or works of service, such as teaching, evangelizing, whatever God may call a person to do to work for Him and serve Him.

 

What does it mean to be "right with God?"

 

An interesting statement regarding this taken from the 'Seven' Points of THE SCHLEITHEIM CONFESSION, 1527.

From the Fifth point,

From the Seventh Point:

I thought this might be useful to this discussion.

There is also a work found at:

Eternal Security A.W. Pink

Which in it's introduction and subsequent scope appears to refute the thought that 'good works' cannot 'hold' or 'keep' a believer saved. Pink asserts and makes a good argument that perserverance of the saints or eternal security is taught in the scripture to the comfort of both young and old believers, however, scripture never proposes it to be separated from our being created unto good works.

an example in the work is a condemned murder, visited by a preacher, who is delighted to hear the man knew the plan of salvation and declared he had years prior to the act of murder been 'saved' and both the preacher and the murderer rejoiced in OSAS, but according to Pink, while he did not enter into the pronouncement of eternal judgement upon this man's heart, he is writing the work to refute such an erroneous teaching of OSAS.

Very much worth the reading imho.

God Bless
Bro. Dallas

Links to other articles of antiquity concerning discipline:

Discipline of the Church---1527

[ April 26, 2004, 09:36 AM: Message edited by: Frogman ]

 

IMHO, to 'be right with God' means to have received his righteousness in Christ (Romans 1.17) and not merely to have set about to make or exhibit our own righteousness (Romans 10.3) but submitting ourselves to the righteousness of God which is Christ; we may hold diverse views of the order of this, however, it is predominantly evident by scripture alone that we are or do receive the quickening of God through the Holy Spirit while we are yet sinners (Eph. 2.1-5) and that we having received this recognize our vile nature in the presence of God's holiness and are caused to repent for our sinfulness.

It is also my opinion, anyone who 'rejects' repentance for their sinful nature is not nor has not received this quickening. Thus, they may have been moved by a worldly sorrow, they may have even followed a prescribed 'prayer of repentance' but the evidence of Grace is first before peace in nearly all places they are found together in scripture. Why is there a need for peace if there is not turmoil in the soul [conviction]. Will the seed planted on unplowed earth be able to take root and thrive?, The earth is first broken and the seed planted beneath the hard soil.

God Bless
Bro. Dallas

 

True Donna.

Works can be "filthy rags" unless they are motivated by the Holy Spirit through faith.
I believe that is what Abiyah is saying as well.

I believe she is correct in that the kingdom of God has been infiltrated with tares who have no real faith just as the Lord told us when He was here in the flesh. Unbelieving religious activity CAN be a faith substitute.

The Judgement seat of Christ will reveal all.

HankD

 

HankD, how do we tell them apart from believers, it certainly can not be done by how many O.T. laws they obey.