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How Are People Saved During the Millennial Reign

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by OldRegular, Mar 14, 2005.

  1. OldRegular

    OldRegular Well-Known Member

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    Then you might try the Bible.
     
  2. Ed Edwards

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    The second post is repeated.
    Seems a pretribulation raptureist done gone
    and said how people get saved in the
    Millinnial Reign of Christ.

    But the same person didn't bother to notice
    when literally 100s of verses support the
    pretribulation/preweek rapture/resurrection
    were offered.
     
  3. Ed Edwards

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    Duh! It would be impossible to prove
    "there were no pretribbers amongst Southern Baptists until the Scofield reference book came along" from the Bible. Well maybe if you had
    the version with Acts chapter 88 in it [​IMG]
     
  4. Dr. Bob

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    How many unsaved people will survive the hell on earth of the 7-year tribulation and enter the millennium alive?

    Do the math of the destruction and you have very very few.

    Jesus will rule for 1000 years and most will be believers. At the conclusion there will be a rebellion of the unsaved (and their progeny from 1000 years) and final destruction.

    I'm searching for any indication of people who will responed to the Gospel in the Kingdom. Can't find any thus far.

    Sad to think that Jesus will reign (with a rod of iron) and they still will not believe. Sad the depravity of the human heart.
     
  5. DeafPosttrib

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    Christ tells us in Matthew 13:29-30, 39-42 about the harvest at the end of the age. Both tares and wheat are growing together, till the harvest time comes, then tares shall be gathering and separate them from wheat, cast them into fire. This is same with the world. Both unbelievers and believers are growing together. Unbelievers shall not be removed from believers till when Christ shall come with his angels at the end of the age. When Christ comes, He shall send his angels to gathering all unbelievers, separate them from believers same with Matt. 25:31-33. Then, all unbelievers shall be cast away into everlasting fire. There shall be no unbelievers remain left beyond the judgement day at Christ's coming. Only remain is all believers have immortality, and shall live eternal with Christ on new earth after the judgement day at Christ's coming, it is clearly find in Matt. 25:46.

    In Christ
    Rev. 22:20 -Amen!
     
  6. OldRegular

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    Well I am pleased that you believe one Biblical thuth, the depravity of man, I assume you are referring to the doctrine of total depravity.

    However, I would be pleased if you would respond to the question: How are people saved during the Millennial Reign. So far I don't believe anyone has attempted an answer.
     
  7. Daniel David

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    Well, I am breaking my own sabbatical from this board only long enough to point out the answer for Oldreg.

    The question is: how are people saved during the millenium if they can actually see Christ? In other words, where is the need for faith?

    Well, my answer is simply this, take it for what it is: people who lived when Christ walked the earth and actually saw him still needed to personally believe in him. When Paul was confronted on the road to Damascus, he had to personally believe in him.

    I sense a little pride in your question as though you got us somehow by a clever question. If you took the time to think through your question, a simple look at salvation is the gospels and for Paul give you the answer.
     
  8. OldRegular

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    When Jesus Christ returns He will come in the full glory of the Godhead. When He came the first time it was in the form of a man. A big difference don't you think.
     
  9. Daniel David

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    The answer remains, unless you think people are saved differently.
     
  10. Ed Edwards

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    Thank you David Daniel for dropping by.
    I think you gave up BB for Lent? I hope
    the last week of Lent will be well for you!!!
     
  11. mountainrun

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    The problem is not how to save those who enter the Millenial Kingdom. They are already saved or they would not be entering.

    The problem is how to save those who are born in the 1000 years reign.

    {As Dr. Bob pointed out, not many will be left after the trib. to enter the kingdom, and yet there are billions at the end. People will still have children and death will be rare.}


    The solution is the same as for everyone...faith.

    Now understand faith--

    Faith is not simply believing the Jesus exists.
    It is believing what He stands for and trusting in Him for salvation.

    If seeing Him in person disqualifies ones saving faith , then those who saw Him 2000 years ago have a problem.

    Some of those who see Him will trust in Him and some will not...their number will be "as the sands of the sea."

    MR
     
  12. OldRegular

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    When Jesus Christ returns He will return in the full glory of the Godhead [Revelation 19]. Scripture also teaches that no man can see the glory of God and live.

    Exodus 33:20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.

    1 Timothy 6:13-16

    13. I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;
    14. That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
    15. Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
    16. Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.


    So how are people going to look upon Jesus Christ during the so-called millennial reign?
     
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    Mountainrun: "The problem is not how to save those who enter the Millenial Kingdom. They are already saved or they would not be entering."

    I respectfully disagree. The following Judgement is to determine
    which surviving kingdoms enter
    the Millennial Kingdom (MK) and which do:

    (from Ed's Five Judgements document):
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    4. Throne of His Glory judgement
    (AKA: Sheep and Goats judgement, Matthew 25:31-46)
    WHO: the nations: the living survivers of the Great Tribulation
    (these people are NOT saved, they are human in human bodies)
    WHEN: after the Great Tribulation, before the Millennial Age
    WHERE: Jerusalem
    WHY: The Lord God fulfills His promises: God will bless those
    who bless Yisrael and curse those who curse Yisrael
    HOW: Judged by their treatment of Yisrael
    WHAT: the cursed to Hell; the blessed to the Millennial Age
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    Also in the MK will be the Messanic Jews saved in the
    Tribulation 7-year-day and protected by the very hand
    of God to the end of the Tribulation 7-year-day.
    Also in the MK will be selected members of the church age
    Christian elect saints. These will sit on thrones judging
    as a reward for actions performed in the flesh prior to
    the pretribulation rapture/resurrection.
    These people will be in glorified 'heavenly' bodies.
     
  14. OldRegular

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    Do we have a new revelation from God: Ed's Five Judgements document?
     
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    I said this:

    (from Ed's Five Judgements document):

    for two reasons:

    1. There are people who check everything said
    on the board to verify that the quotes are
    correctly identified. The data following my
    statement appears elsewhere BUT i wrote it.

    2. It gives some a new way to damn me.
    Yes, they were going to damn me no matter what
    i did, but i like to make it easier for them :(
     
  16. Ed Edwards

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    The doctrine you damn: Dispensations,
    has the answer to your question. But you
    will have none of it.

    In the Old Testament age, things are as you
    note. In the Church age (AKA: New Testament
    Age) things are as you note. In
    the Millennial Reign Age we shall look up
    on the face of Jesus, 2ed person of the
    Trinity, and live.
     
  17. mountainrun

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    Posted by O.R.
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    16. Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

    So how are people going to look upon Jesus Christ during the so-called millennial reign?
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    It is not Jesus that we cannot look upon in verse 16, it is the light in which He lives in Heaven.

    When He returns, we will look upon His glorified body the same as they did after his resurrection.

    Ed's post is confusing. I'm not sure how he has determined that unbelievers will enter the kingdom to repopulate the earth.
    The only time you see them before Jesus is to be judged and cast into hell.

    Matthew 24 teaches that believers will be left at His coming and unbelievers will be removed.

    For the sake of argument however, and of the topic , these unbelievers he says will be in the millenial reign will have children and they will be saved or damned by their faith or the lack of.

    MR
     
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