The Neoconservative Empire

Yep, sometimes we have to choose the eviler of two lessors

 

Sorry, that is the price we pay for allowing such low level candidates run the show in the two parties. It could happen if the voters who do not vote, and those who do vote would aspire to a higher level of expectation than ineptness. There is no difference between a Gulianni, Romney vs Clinton or Obama when they both are pro abortion, pro gay rights, and pro gun control. Nope, until we do something different as Americans, we are going to keep recycling the same old trash.

 

Yea, I remember those years. I would certainly love the opportunity to cast another vote for Bill Clinton, to augment the two I did cast!

 

Better times they were; people were doing better financially, the debt was actually going down, and while we had to use force in an instance or two, Clinton listened to the generals and thereby made it quick and decisive. And the one time he had someone bungle an operation, they were quickly gone.

Compare to the bungling we've seen in the last six years. Compare Dubya's loyalty to Rumsfeld long after it became clear that he was in over his head and had no respect for our troops. Is it any wonder the American people regard Clinton as one of the best recent presidents?

 

Are you saying that your ancestors are GOP?

Rufus, I told you that my family was GOP for the last 100 years. Governor Morton of Indiana was a Civil War friend of Lincoln and Indiana voted GOP except perhaps once for FDR and once for LBJ. But not my family. My definition of neo-conservative is a liberal Jew who used to be a Democrat like all the other Jews.

My family has always been conservative Protestant and conservative GOP. Since you didn't answer my question to you, I suppose that you come from a long line of Dixiecrats....

If you are against the war, you will find that the Democrats represent your foreign policy. Both parties are the same on domestic issues anymore. The conservatives have failed to develop any leadership since Reagan. Indiana has Mike Pence from Muncie in Congress but he is a long way from being ready to run for the White House. Strangely, the south has developed no conservative Protestant candidate. The GOP is certainly not going to run a dove--that would fly in the face of 70 years of GOP leadership in foreign policy.

But I have said all of this repeatedly, as you know.

As for your remark about Dixon, I lost all respect for the man when he asked the Indianapolis city government to let him use Indianapolis Manual High School auditorium for his Sunday services. This from a man who refused to pay taxes and said that one should have nothing to do with the government at any level. It turned out that it was more do as Dixon says not as Dixon does, so the far right is entitled to him and I pray that he stays out of the GOP the rest of his life. The same for David Duke.

 

The only vote that is wasted is the one that an eligible voter fails to cast. To call anyone's vote that is cast as being wasted is an affront to the men and women who have defended, many of whom have died in doing so, the right to vote in these United States.

 

Dixon could have paid to rent a private facility such as at a restaurant or a hotel. The man is a total hypocrite, Rufus. He spoke for years about being unregistered and not cooperating with the government and then he himself made a deal to use Manual High School.

You cut my post up without showing proper ellipitical markings. I infer that this is deliberate on your part based upon your remarks and your failure to answer questions put to you and your insistence upon having your questions answered.

I quite understand that you do not care for the GOP only Ron Paul. That is the reason that Ron Paul is not mainstream GOP along with his Democrat foreign policy.

Let me assure you that I am not a liberal Jew who changed parties, as you charged. I think that you should understand that most denominations were Calvinistic until a few decades ago and that Fundamentalists do not have a monopoly on conservative Protestantism. This is a Fundamentalist board I suppose but I am not the only Evangelical here. I like most Fundamentalists but I have known some very bad ones also. There is a church near here, also owned by the Pastor, wherein the Pastor had an open affair in front of the congregation, ending in a divorce, a re-marriage, and a second church breaking off and moving away to another building. Do I need to respect a Fundamentalist preacher who commits adultery just because he is a Fundamentalist?

I just have no admiration for a man who does not pay taxes. Dixon owes more than $100,000 in personal taxes also. Jesus said to give Caesar what is Caesar's and the last time I had any money it did not have Dixon's picture on it.

 

It didn't have Caesar's picture on it either! :laugh:

 

It is not proper etiquette to omit ellipitcal markings when you omit a person's remarks. A text out of context is a pretext. If you cannot be fair to your debate opponent, you cannot be fair to your friend.

As for the personal taxes owed by Greg Dixon, I suppose that we could say that the source is the US Federal District Court in downtown Indianapolis.

It was reported by the Indianapolis newspaper. I have never heard anyone seriously claim that the court did not charge Dixon with owing personal taxes of more than $100,000. Nor do I see the necessity of footnoting something that everyone already knows as fact.

On July 24, 2001, Judge Barker issued an order imposing a tax judgment of $136,610.04 against Dixon.

http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles/religion/churches/baptist_temple/tax_dispute.html

The American people will never see that money in my opinion. Most American pastors render unto Caesar but there are always some who love money.