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Libby Found Guilty On 4 of 5 Counts

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by 2 Timothy2:1-4, Mar 6, 2007.

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  1. johnk48

    johnk48 New Member

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    Perzakly!

    This was nothing more or less than libs hating conservatives and using anything they could grasp onto to turn their hate into action.
     
  2. carpro

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    What is really sad is that Fitzgerald has known from almost day 1 who the source of the leak was , but continued his "investigation" by setting perjury traps for most of the people he questioned. Libby fell into the trap.
     
  3. Daisy

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    Who are the "libs" and "conservatives" in your scenario?

    Is the CIA a "lib" or a "conservative" organization? They were the ones who first demanded to know who leaked.

    The Republican controlled Senate called for the investigation. Are they the "libs" or the "conservatives"?

    Republican President Bush ("lib" or a "conservative"?) appointed Fitzgerald (don't know his party affiliation, but he has a solid reputation of integrity).

    Republicans Armitage, Rove & Libby all leaked to various journalists - are they "lib" or a "conservative"? Conservative Novak was the first to actually publish the information, with most the others declining. Uber-Republican Cheney was obsessed with discrediting Wilson and Plame (are they your "libs"?)

    Who is putting the hate on whom here?
     
  4. ASLANSPAL

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    The truth scales have been brought out once again


    [​IMG] truth is balanced and the other is truthiness...but I prefer balance and evidence for the discerning eye.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness
     
  5. hillclimber1

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    The real disappointment is that Plame and Wilson didn't get justice. I see they are trying to leave to avoid any more scrutiny. They are of bad character.
     
  6. Daisy

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    You're blaming Plame for Libby's lying and obstructing justice. That's a spin and a twist!
     
  7. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    How can there be obstruction of justice when there was no justice to obstruct?
     
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    "The fall of this skilled and long-respected public servant is particularly sobering because it arose from a Washington scandal remarkable for its lack of substance. It was propelled not by actual wrongdoing but by inflated and frequently false claims......

    "Mr. Wilson was embraced by many because he was early in publicly charging that the Bush administration had "twisted," if not invented, facts in making the case for war against Iraq...he claimed to have debunked evidence that Iraq was seeking uranium from Niger; suggested that he had been dispatched by Mr. Cheney to look into the matter; and alleged that his report had circulated at the highest levels of the administration.

    "A bipartisan investigation by the Senate intelligence committee subsequently established that all of these claims were false -- and that Mr. Wilson was recommended for the Niger trip by Ms. Plame, his wife. When this fact, along with Ms. Plame's name, was disclosed in a column by Robert D. Novak, Mr. Wilson advanced yet another sensational charge: that his wife was a covert CIA operative and that senior White House officials had orchestrated the leak of her name to destroy her career and thus punish Mr. Wilson....

    "The partisan furor over this allegation led to the appointment of special prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald. Yet after two years of investigation, Mr. Fitzgerald charged no one with a crime for leaking Ms. Plame's name. In fact, he learned early on that Mr. Novak's primary source was former deputy secretary of state Richard L. Armitage, an unlikely tool of the White House. The trial has provided convincing evidence that there was no conspiracy to punish Mr. Wilson by leaking Ms. Plame's identity -- and no evidence that she was, in fact, covert....

    "It would have been sensible for Mr. Fitzgerald to end his investigation after learning about Mr. Armitage. Instead, like many Washington special prosecutors before him, he pressed on, pursuing every tangent in the case...."

    LINK
     
  9. 777

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    And Armitage? Wilson?

    Somebody had to be sacrificed. What I'd like to know is how this woman, "juror #10" can possibly be an attorney?:

    http://newsbusters.org/node/11260

    Convict him one day, pardon him the next day. It wouldn't have mattered to this jury if Scooter Libby had testified on his own behalf, this will teach him not to forget a memo he saw over ten years ago.
     
  10. Terry_Herrington

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    Libby didn't forget, he lied. That's the reason he was convicted.
     
  11. StraightAndNarrow

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    He is guilty of a crime. He was found guilty on 4 out of 5 charges. Clinton got impeached for less.
     
  12. Bro. Curtis

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    I want to know how Denis Collins got on this jury. I think even the most die-hard liberal would have to admit something is very wrong with this guy.


    Over on The Corner, Byron York is puzzled over why Libby's lawyers wouldn't choke on the many conflicts of blabby juror Denis Collins, the former Washington Post staffer who worked for Bob Woodward, partied with Walter Pincus, shared a back yard with Tim Russert, not to mention the book-writing about the CIA:

    From the day Denis Collins appeared in jury selection, reporters asked themselves one question: How did this guy get on the jury? From his account at the Huffington Post, he recounts telling the court about his many, almost unbelievable, conflicts:


    http://newsbusters.org/taxonomy/term/611





     
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    The lesson is, if yer a GOPer, don't talk to the media.
     
  14. Baptist in Richmond

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    He took down an entire CIA operation.

    Who said that? I didn't.

    I am not referring to the article as much as I am referring to what the despicable Mr. Novak did in the aftermath of outing a CIA operative. You will recall that he went on CNN and took down an entire CIA operation.

    Think about that: if this front company was operating in an intelligence-gathering capacity in a country, anyone associated with that company was outed. That means that the agents and/or analysts were compromised, along with anyone working with them. Remember: they're the good guys in this "War on Terror."

    But I guess we will never know the extent of the damage, will we? As far as I know, they never did a damage assessment of Novak's despicable actions.

    Sounds a lot like Whitewater, doesn't it? Starr found absolutely nothing, yet went after President Clinton on an unrelated perjury charge. As far as I know, Monica was not involved with Whitewater in any way shape or form.

    BTW, does anyone know what Plame's speciality was at the CIA?

    Novak is despicable, plain and simple. He is a true enemy of the state.

    Regards Pastor Larry, hope all is well.
    BiR
     
  15. Baptist in Richmond

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    Yep, I heard Rush Limbaugh something very close to this. It sure is amazing that I continually see his thoughts/ideas reproduced on this board.

    Joseph Wilson is NOT of bad character, and your claim seemingly indicates that you have had your political viewpoints provided for you by those who would have us believe that Scooter Libby is some good guy who has been a victim of the left wing.

    From Wikipedia:
    <Note: I cannot repeat the quote verbatim as it contains an expletive - caution (to those who are easily offended) when following the link>

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_wilson

    Perhaps you should think for yourself.....

    BiR
     
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    He lied to Fitzgerald???

    Yeah, give him the max! Twenty-five years! That'll show other Americans that they can't get away with lying to a partisan "special" prosecutor.



    Oh, the obligatory MSM plant. Who was the DNCer on there?

    Great to hear there's other Bob Novaks fans out there! Here's what he has to say:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/07/AR2007030702045_pf.html

    I couldn't find "Yellow Cake" Joe's opinion, wonder why?

    The last Novak sentence, duh. In the name their of "justice", they cry for a GITMO terrorist:

    http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=2E2A4850-3048-5C12-00A7B247454E775D

    and celebrate this. Verdict won't stand and you'll never get Cheney.​
     
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    What operation? There was no operation. Brewster-Jennings & Associates was nothing more than a mail drop. Plame had not been covert at all.

    Now, for a genuine case of bringing down an operation, see the NY Times series wherein they revealed the NSA's terrorist surveillance program in 2005.
     
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  18. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    There is no evidence that any thought presented on this board is a direct result of anyone listening to Rush Limbaugh unless he is quoted and givne credit for it. We also hear many thoughts presented on this board that is spued from many left wing wackos from CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, Air America etc. It appears that some run out of arguments so the run to "you cant think for yourself" "you got it form someone else" in other words if you are on the right side of politics then you are thoughtless robots.

    The left wing elitists continue their mantra that is spoken over and over again. And when they do that they engage in the very same speech that they accuse the right of engaging in. And it is rather immature.

    The truth is those of the same mind set are likely to come to many of the same conclusions.
     
  19. Baptist in Richmond

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    So, you are claiming that there was nothing to this company, that there was nobody working under the cover of this company? If you are, then please provide the proof for such a claim.

    Oh, okay. Was that program legal? Were the obtaining the warrants as outlined by the FISA courts?

    Regards,
    BiR
     
  20. Baptist in Richmond

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    Don't forget: I willingly admit to listening to Rush Limbaugh - as much as I can stomach. It certainly is amazing that so many of his viewpoints show up on this board after the show is on the radio, in some cases the points are almost verbatim.

    For example: you utilized the term "left wing elitists." That is a trademark Rush Limbaugh phrase - everybody knows that. Whereas Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Michael Savage and various other right-wing radio personalities use the word "liberal," and Bill O'Reilly uses the phrase "secular progressive," you opted to use Rush's phrase (in addition, Rush also uses "pointy-headed intellectuals").

    Interesting.......

    Regards anyway, hope you and yours are doing well,
    BiR
     
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