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Imus Fired

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by rufus, Apr 14, 2007.

  1. Alcott

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    A non-government employer does have the right to fire an employee for things they say; otherwise, a department store could hire a clerk and could not fire him/her for making rude comments to customers. A case might be made, though, on the premise that guys like that are hired to make blunt controversial statements, and that's what he has been doing for quite some time [as I understand; I didn't even knew who he was before all this]. But it's certainly true that mocking biblical standards and traditional western values, white males, Boy Scouts, et al, is politically correct and therefore fair game. I'm seldom on the side of those try to reap profits from emtionally-charged public issues, but if those Duke lacrosse players go after that DA who tried to win PC points by presecuting them for a fallacious rape story by a black stripper, I'm for them at least to a significant extent.
     
  2. Filmproducer

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    For heaven's sake Imus is not the poster boy for white oppression by overzealous race baiters. Instead we have an issue where people finally said enough is enough, and we are tired of it. This was not the first racist comment against black people the guy made in his career. Anyone else remember when he called Venus and Serena Williams monkeys? Yes, he asked for forgiveness, and I do forgive him. I am certainly not going to lobby for him to be put back on the air, especially given his history of rude, offensive, and obscene comments on a DAILY basis.

    The Duke lacrosse players, on the other hand, probably are. For starters they are owed a heap of apologies from a lot of different people. The DA, as overzealous as he may be, was still doing his job. The others, like Jackson and Sharpton, whose involvement only escalated racial tensions in the area, and put undue pressure on the DA to take action, are another story. An apology would be a good start.
     
  3. Hope of Glory

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    I have two girls on my bus that I call "monkey girl".

    One likes to make monkey faces, the other one is the granddaughter of a friend of mine, and she's full of energy and climbs around.

    I would be fired if I called a black kid "monkey girl" (or boy).
     
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    I'm not really happy to defend the Duke guys' judgement. They hired a stripper, and didn't sound like wholesome guys.

    BUt I have to weigh in here. Nifong (the DA) was not doing his job. He was making false statements publicly, and violating very clear policy by revealing information that should not have been. In addition, he didn't get around to investigating critical evidence until months later. And there's questions as to whether or not he withheld evidence.

    This guy wasn't doing his job at all. He was pandering to folks, at the expense of these guys, so he could be re-elected.
     
  5. Filmproducer

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    Far different from calling grown women monkeys. Considering the history behind the term, in regards to the black race, you must understand the negative conotations? It is unfortunate that the term cannot be used lightheartedly; there is just too much history behind it. I'm sure you would feel the same way if you had to continually read books comparing the intelligence and skull size of your race to that of the monkey( late 50's and 60's). The bell curve was bad enough.
     
  6. Filmproducer

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    You're right, and I should have clarified what I meant. His behavior was certainly not ethical, and I do believe he caved into outside pressures, as well political aspirations. It is behavior that I did not find surprising given an election year, unfortunately.
     
  7. Hope of Glory

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    Actually, I don't let words bother me.

    Before we moved here, our business was formed under the most politically incorrect name possible, based on the two ethnic groups from which we originated.

    First, the people at the business office tried to tell us that we couldn't.

    Then, a bunch of white liberals took offense "for us".

    I don't let it bother me.

    And, I never use the "n" word unless it applies to behavior.

    However, remember the Santa Claus that was fired because he called the little black boy "a little monkey", just as he did every single other kid in the line.

    Words only have power if you let them, and that goes for good as well as bad.
     
  8. rufus

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    Some of you must be reading a version of God's Word that I've never seen, and I've been preaching the Book for forty years. Please enlighten me!

    Thanks.

    :1_grouphug:
     
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    Ah, but don't you see that even with forgiveness comes consequences? Just ask the death row inmate that has accepted Christ in prison. He's still going to pay for what he did. But he's forgiven in the eyes of the Lord.
     
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    No offense meant, but, before God could forgive you and I, He put stripes on His Son. Then we were healed. Then we were forgiven.

    God didn't treat our offenses like they never happened.
     
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    Or an alchololic that gets saved may still die from liver disease..
     
  12. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    Sure under a secular judicial system that is not run by biblcial principles. In a secular world forgiveness is not much of an option. And as you said He is forgiven in the eyes of the Lord. In other words God doesn't hold his crime against him. There are consequences. Imus is suffering them. But in the case of a converted prisoner his consequences is that he is not forgiven on earth.
     
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    But He does now.
     
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