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Brother Ian, I agree; we were created for fellowship with God. However, if it is “our sin nature that separates us from God”, then are we going...
Brother Ian, Following your hypothetical situation (i.e. an individual who can live a perfect, sinless life), we should also say that this person...
Helen, You make some good points; both reasonable and logical in my opinion. Yet what you’re saying is not what is preached by the mainstream....
Helen and Brother Ian, You've both said some things I would like to respond to but just don't have the time this weekend. Look for this thread...
Scarlett O., Yes, no one is perfect. But even if we could think of someone as being perfect (i.e. without a "sin nature"), would that mean they...
Helen, Thanks for responding. I share your sentiments 100%. I also need Christ at all times! If you don’t mind, I’d like to take a phrase you...
I’m here out of a sincere interest in discussing, questioning, and learning about this topic. Debate is not my motive. I’m an 18-year professed...
HankD, 70 is not really a cardinal adjective in this case but a number that conotes an idea. The idea is in my head but hard to explain....
HankD, I derive this idea from what I believe to be the 70 nations of Gen. 10.
HankD, I hope you don’t mind if I add some comments here. IMO, we need to distinguish the church between what we physically see and what only God...
HankD, The terms “wife” and “bride” are not types, they denote relationship, and a particular kind of relationship at that. IMO, to be part of the...
ituttut, I think we've reached a point where we can go no further. There are too many assumptions we're both making that we've lost each other....
ituttut, Uh, no, I do not agree with that. I believe the church, like Isreal, IS the covenant people. Being born again is something else.
HankD, If the church is the wife of Christ (Eph. 5), and the Holy City is the Lamb’s Bride, then isn’t it logical to conclude that a universal...
ituttut, The confusion with our understanding each other here is with the term “saved”. Most use this term to denote “one who has been born...
HankD, As I understand, when people call the church “universal”, they are saying it is composed of all the “saved ones”, regardless of creed. So...
Bro Tony, No. But I think we're getting off the topic. As I understand, "universal" means all believers (and lets just say after Pentecost for...
bapmom, Yes, I know what you're talking about. No, I'm not a "baptist brider".
Bro Tony, I think you're insinuating this verse supports the "universal" idea. Yet Jesus is saying nothing here concerning the church's...
bapmom, What's a "baptist brider"?
