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I am not sure if someone else has mentioned this but Psalm 51:5 "We were concieved in sin and brought forth from iniquity"
Why do I have to deal with that? Scripture does not say God must save any, much less ALL. You act as if God owes us something. I don't see that,...
Sorry, I must have missed getting my calvinist handbook. But believing in one call that is only effectual for some does not dethread the verce in...
First of all, I do not spend every waking hour on this board, if I abandoned a conversation, it is because I didn't want to wade through a load of...
I see where you are going here. When God does not save the non-elect, he is not violating their will. When He saaves the elect, He is violating...
And again Bro Bill, you problem is not anything accept that you do not like what the end leads too. It is not that the scriptures do not lead you...
I am not saying it is conditional in the sense that man must believe on the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved. But only the elect will do this. You...
bro Bill, Nice way to avoid my point. So both are covered. That doesn't change anything. This was just a quick way to focus on something else...
You said that "He (God) made each one guilty." You are wrong here. God did not make them guilty, man is guilty. God pronounces them guilty, but he...
Since you bring up the word thelo, let us look at it. It is translated as will, but means an emotional desire. Can God ordain something that does...
I do not see efficacious as getting everything he desires, I never said that. I said it means He can produce exactly what He means to produce. On...
Ok, I thought your question was answered many times before, but let me do it again. 1. If I was giving you directions to my house, I would tell...
Romanbear, if my wife says in a letter that she loves me, does that mean she loves the neighbor? No, why so? Because the letter was to me. In this...
Ray, You say that God sends people to hell as iff man does not deserve hell. God only send people to hell in the same way that a judge sends a...
Then you truly do not see God as efficacious. God cannot produce the ends that He wishes to produce. Secondly that still does not prove your...
Aki, Paul answered your questions in Romans 9, but I am sure that you won't like that answer. Read where it starts out, "then why does God still...
You quoted- 3. Supremely efficacious; superior to all others; predominant; effectual; as a sovereign remedy. Look up the word efficacious. You...
That does not answer my question. If man will not seek God, how can man choose God? Call it can't or call it won't. Man does not seek after God....
You never answered my point that if Romans 3 says that there is no one who seeks God, who is left outside that "no one" who can seek God. Our...
"I say God wouldn't do that" There in lies your whole theology. You don't like where scriptures lead you so you come to it with assumptions that...
