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Questions for those holding an extreme KJVO position

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Thermodynamics, Jul 6, 2009.

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  1. Samuel Owen

    Samuel Owen New Member

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    That proves how gracious God is. :laugh:
     
  2. Will J. Kinney

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    several inspired and 100% true bibles?

    Hi Trotter. I suspect you have a really strange and unique way of defining the words "100% true bibles", but to put my theory to the test, would you mind listing any two of these "inspired and 100% true bibles" and maybe we can see if what you affirm makes any sense. OK? Are you willing to do that?

    Thanks,

    Will K
     
  3. Will J. Kinney

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    a minor issue?

    Whether or not there exists such a thing as a complete, preserved, infallible and 100% true Bible in any language is "a minor issue"?

    We have several here at the forum who tell us that it is impossible to have an infallible translation and that only the originals were inspired, but of course we no longer have the originals. Thus, "no inerrant and 100% true Bible".

    Some prefer the ever changing Critical texts and still have no inerrant Bible. Other like the TR but still have no inerrant Bible. Some commit intellectual suicide and tell us that 5 or 6 versions that differ from each other by thousands of words, names, numbers, and meanings are "all inspired and inerrant". And meanwhile the recent polls show that the majority of Christians do not believe in the inerrancy of Scripture; more than half do not believe either Satan or the Holy Spirit are persons, but are mere influences, and a good percentage of Christians believe Christ sinned while on earth.

    "A minor issue"?

    We are living in the times of the falling away from the faith; not a great revival.

    "He that hath ears to hear, let him hear." Matthew 11:15

    Will K
     
  4. Will J. Kinney

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    prove the alleged error

    Hi Rob. Do you have a complete and 100% true Bible? If so, what is it? Now, for those "errors" in the KJB, do you have one you can prove or will you just be giving us your own personal preference?

    Or will you take the position that a printing error way back there in 1631 that happened in one printing of the hundreds in its long history "proves" the KJB is wrong? What have you got?

    Thanks,

    Will K
     
  5. Will J. Kinney

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    Oh No! It's the fruit loop theory again

    Here is a printable form of what I like to call the "Fruit Loop" Theory

    All VALID English Language Bibles

    Collectively and Individually


    contain and are


    the Inerrant and Perfect


    Written Word of God


    preserved by Divine Appointment


    for the generation in which they are translated.





     
  6. DHK

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    Since all Bibles are valid this must be your theory? :laugh:
     
  7. Deacon

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    God's word is true.
    I use many different trustworthy versions.


    TRANSLATION ERR

    Yet they had a file for the mattocks, and for the coulters, and for the forks, and for the axes, and to sharpen the goads.
    1 Samuel 13:21 AV 1873

    The price was two-thirds of a shekel for sharpening plowpoints and mattocks, and a third of a shekel for sharpening forks and axes and for repointing goads.
    1 Samuel 13:21 TNIV


    MANUSCRIPT ERR

    These things were done in Bethabara beyond Jordan, where John was baptizing.
    John 1:28 AV 1873


    All this happened in Bethany on the east side of the River Jordan, where John was baptizing.
    John 1:28 Good News Translation


    TITLE ERR

    THE EPISTLE OF PAUL THE APOSTLE TO THE HEBREWS.
    AV 1873

    The Letter to the HEBREWS
    NRSV

    Do you also want:
    SPELLING ERRs
    GRAMMAR ERRs
    VERSES ADDED TO THE SCRIPTURES
    VERSES MISSING FROM THE SCRIPTURES

    Rob
     
  8. Mexdeaf

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    It IS a minor issue. Whether you like it or not. You can spout all of your supposed knowledge as to the supposed superiority of the KJV over all other translations, but in the light of eternity it is but a will-o-the-wisp in the flame of God's wrath upon sin.

    Millions of Bible believers exist who have never heard of you, Ruckman, or even the KJV. They are Bible believers who know that what they have and hold IS the Word of God even if you would deny it. Many of them don't even have a complete copy of God's Word in their own language, but they cherish and believe what they do have.

    Your teaching does not build faith in the Word of God, rather it destroys it. Your teaching is nothing more than a pharisaical tradition that makes two-fold children of hell who espouse KJVO doctrine and deny salvation and grace to those who don't "toe the line" instead of delivering people out of hell.

    Don't bother responding. I probably will be banned for calling you out. It will be a blessing not to have to read your pitiful cries of "Do you have a complete and 100% true Bible?"

    I do, thanks- and goodbye.
     
  9. DHK

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    No Mexdeaf, you will not be banned.
    Thank you for such a well-worded and clear-cut response.
     
  10. Samuel Owen

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    Yet they had a file for the mattocks, and for the coulters, and for the forks, and for the axes, and to sharpen the goads.
    1 Samuel 13:21 AV 1873.
    This one is correct.

    The price was two-thirds of a shekel for sharpening plowpoints and mattocks, and a third of a shekel for sharpening forks and axes and for repointing goads.
    1 Samuel 13:21 TNIV.
    This one is incorrect, based on some hokey archeological evidence from a coin. :laugh:

    These things were done in Bethabara beyond Jordan, where John was baptizing.
    John 1:28 AV 1873.
    This is the correct Old World name.

    Anything else ??.
     
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