MV`s compared to JW`s NWT

Typical of a man with an agenda and an axe to grind. My standing before God has nothing to do with a translation of God's word but in my faith in Christ Jesus. He alone justifies me and not any version of the Bible I choose to read. But, I will give you this. A man, woman, boy, or girl can find Jesus in a KJV Bible very easily. No qualms there. However, he or she can just as easily find Him and be saved using a NIV, NASB, NKJV, TNiv, NLT, and even, god forbid, "The Message." Now, show me in your KJV where it says that I have to support one particular version of the Bible in order to have a good standing before God. I think you have been asked different versions of this question numerous times and yet have failed to do so. All we get are KJVO talking points and Jesuit conspiracy theories.

 

KJVO party.

 

Whoo Hooo!!! Not!!!

 

Again, a failure to answer a simple question. Again, more of the same old talking points from KJVO 101.

 

I think if we just ignore him he will go away. He doesn't have anything to add to the discussion anyhow.

 

Yes. If we are permitted to hear what He sez to others, we'll hear Him denounce the MAN-MADE KJVO myth in no uncertain terms.

 

GREAT SCOTT!

You pick some of the groddiest "religious" sites on the net to cite! No wonder no one takes you seriously!

 

u really believe that?

then why join the sophistic mind-worshipping Tridentine-Romish Onlyist ranks of KJBOism?

Jesus was no Onlyist, nor was Paul. they didn't stick to one version of the OT and make up artificial arguments to prop up that sorry position. and they certainly entered the Kingdom of heaven.

will KJBOs?

 

Pilgrim, you're so WRONG that it's almost funny!

The NWT was made from the British "Revised Version" of 1881, a version not too well-known in the USA. They couldn't use the KJV, ASV, or any better-known version cuz the changes woulda been very apparent to the rank-n-file JWs. Then-WT prez Nathan Knorr suggested in 1946 that a new Bible translation be made just for the JWs. Work began in 1947.

It was NOT made in 1969, but was finished in 1950 by two men, Freddie Franz(who later became big kahoona of the WT) & his buddy George Gangas, a Greek Cypriot. (Their IDs were revealed by some ex-JWs who'd left that cult.)The NWT is NOT a translation, but an ALTERATION, made to fit JW doctrine. (Example: John 1:1's ending from "the Word was God" to "the Word was *A* god.)

 

Don't give up on the young Pilgrim, he shows that he's open to reading modern versions.

:laugh:

Rob

 

Right On Brother Elder Dr. Bob
-- Preach it! ​

:1_grouphug:

 

Pilgrim:Modern day seminaries have destroyed the belief that Gods Word is in only one book from a pure stream of a set of manuscripts preserved through copies of the originals.

robycop3's reply: That's cuz they know mosta that idea is FALSE.

My God is able to do this but westcott and hort thories have destroyed the idea.

My God is able to do ANYTHING...and He aint KJVO.

My God that created this planet and created you and me cant preserve His words through a pure stream of copies of the originals.What a limited God that I cant and wont believe in.

but apparently you believe in one whom man is able to limit to one version of His word.


The one who shed His blood on the cross for me the one who was resurrected the one who supernaturally changes lives the one who can raise the dead God Almighty Jesus Christ can give us this book and it has been done if you have faith to believe He promised to do so.

My God is able and has done just as He promised.

OK, lessee some SCRIPTURE where He promises to limit His word to just one translation, and that version is the KJV.


How can the bibles be trusted that turns Jesus into Lucifer?

They make Lucifer and Jesus Christ the same:

In Isaiah 14:12, [Attack on the Bible removed]. The King James reads, "How art thou fallen from heaven, O LUCIFER, son of the morning!..." The NIV, NASV, NRSV etc. reads, "How you have fallen from heaven, O MORNING STAR, son of the dawn..." The new versions change "Lucifer" to "morning star." According to Revelation 22:16, the "morning star" is the Lord Jesus Christ. What blasphemy! [Bible attack snipped]! And there's no basis whatsoever for the change, as the Hebrew word for star [kokab] is not even found in Isaiah 14:12. [Bible attack deleted]

THIS IS HORSE FEATHERS! This garbage comes straitht outta that 7TH DAY ADVENTIST'S book, has been periodically resurrected by KJVOs for decades now, even though it was shot down some 40 years ago!

First, the AV1611, the ORIGINAL KJV, has this marginal note for Lucifer: "Or, O day starre." Second, Jesus sez, in Rev. 2;28, "and I will give him(the believer) the MORNING STAR." Now, Jesus aint gonna give Himself to anyone, nor is He gonna give the devil to anyone. Obviously, there's more than one morning star! Third, Job 38:7 sez,When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?"

Now, WHICH ONE of those morning stars is JESUS?


Also see this article if you dont think seminaries are out to destroy faith in verbal inspiration {i.e.enemies in the camp}.



IS THE BIBLE A HUMAN BOOK?

It would be difficult to find a book written by a number of Baptists that is more filled with heresy than this 159-page book. Broadman Press and these "Baptist Leaders" have let go a broadside against verbal inspiration. A close look will show just how far the Southern Baptist Convention has gone in rejecting the inspired Word of God. Of the fifteen authors, eight are pastors, five are from five different Southern Baptist Seminaries, one is with the Baptist Home Mission Board, and one is a former congressman and former president of the Southern Baptist Convention. The editors say, "For the first time, a cross section of recognized Baptist leaders spells out what they really believe about the Bible . . . " These fifteen men, from different areas of the SBC, undoubtedly represent the growing liberal power in the SBC.

Oh, how SILLY to quote this! We ALL know the Bible was willed into existence by GOD, and the noriginal writings were perfect. However, mosta US use TRANSLATIONS, same as many folx of JESUS' earthly time did for the Old Testament, & these were made by men & subject to human error. And yes, I believe GOD influenced men to make translations.






http://www.tbaptist.com/aab/isbibleahumanbook.htm

An article by BYNUM?

Lessee, you've quoted Bynum, Grady, Reagan, Fuller, Gipp, "Scion of Zion", etc.

What a crew.

Every one of'em got their KJVO codwallop from DR. WILKINSON'S BOOK!

http://www.temcat.com/Wilkinson/AuthorizedBibleTOC.htm

Sorry, Sportzz fanzz, I aint buying ANY doctrine of worship that's NOT FOUND IN SCRIPTURE, especially if it comes from a CULT OFFICIAL'S BOOK! That makes it DOUBLY heretical! If YOU wanna believe a doc of worship that's NOT FROM GOD, go right ahead! But consider what the ULTIMATE source of ALL doctrines of worship is, that are not found in Scripture!

Hint: He wantsta be like the Most High!

 

It's not "evidence" - it's horse feathers, straight outta Dr. Wilkinson's book. I just posted proof that it IS horse feathers, last post.

I shall leave it to the hebrew readers here to destroy it further with a comprehensive analysis of the hebrew word 'helel'.

 

He CAN'T, SAG38! That's all ANY KJVO has...the hooey from 7TH DAY ADVENTIST official Dr. Benjamin Wilkinson's book!

 

OHMYGOODNESS! Now ya quote that silly Barna goose liver!

Pilgrim, as SAG38 said, mosta us have seen all the KJVO codwallop you post umpteen times for many years(some 27 years in my case) and have seen it all refuted & proven FALSE long ago. However, for the sake of newer Christians, we re-post those proofs no matter how boring it is to us.

Wanna come up with something NEW? How about posting some SCRIPTURAL PROOF that KJVO is correct? And, if ya can't, please man up & admit it is MAN-MADE & FALSE.

And, PUH-LEEZE, do NOT say "Psalm 12:6-7"! That theory, straight outta Wilkinson's book, was shot down before we were born!

 

Barna's "surveys" are akin to one's goint to Tokyo and surveying only American service personnel as to what their primary language is, then publishing the results of that survey, saying, "English has replaced japanese as the #1 language of Tokyo!" His surveys are made only from carefully-selected demographics.