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What Does It mean "Those GOD Foreknew He Predestined?"

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by JesusFan, Mar 25, 2011.

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  1. mandym

    mandym New Member

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    This is the problematic attitude of Calvinists and why they are so brazen. Whether you intended it to be or not it is arrogant and in fact not true. The problem with it is the instance that God refuses to offer grace to some people. It just cannot be back up with scripture as hard as you might try. And the false doctrine of "effectual calling" is not layed out in scripture but imposed on a few choice passages.
     
    #21 mandym, Mar 27, 2011
  2. Earth Wind and Fire

    Earth Wind and Fire Well-Known Member
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    Oh Really?!? How about John 6:44 " no one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him"
     
    #22 Earth Wind and Fire, Mar 27, 2011
  3. mandym

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    Nothing about that says that God does not offer grace to some people.
     
    #23 mandym, Mar 27, 2011
  4. psalms109:31

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    I agree with this and following a crowd doesn't mean you were drawn by the Father either.

    After Jesus is lifted up then all men will be drawn to Jesus and He brings before all men life and death to believe trust in Him and be saved or not and be condemned. So choose life. God has made us the messenger of this.

    So many see it the way it was before the cross and can't see it the way it is now and visa-versa.

    All authority has been given to Christ Jesus.
     
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  5. ReformedBaptist

    ReformedBaptist Well-Known Member

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    How does what you wrote interact with the text?
     
    #25 ReformedBaptist, Mar 27, 2011
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