Southern Baptist Preachers in the news!

I retract it.

And I say "Well played, Batman. Well played."

:thumbsup:

 

EW, here's another: the sister of Reformed Baptist apologist James White recounts being molested repeatedly by their father, a "Founder's Friendly" SBC pastor:

Abba's Little Girl "Out of Darkness"

Abba's Little Girl "The Cross I Carry"

Sick.

 

blah blah blah...

I hope OP was being sarcastic about the assumption about all SBCs..ugh...and i'm not even SBC! lol..

Lets just say they are a group of rotten apples in the apple tree..

 

True Baptists are not Denominated Protestants...

...in the sense that they do not come from the Reformation of the Catholic Church commonly ascribed to one Martin of Luther. He was defrocked for his efforts and started his own denomination. Calvin did a similar scenario, however, he had no frock to lose--was he a lay chaplain? What ever the case, Jon Chauvin was no longer under the auspices of the Holy See. Jon's favorite form of church government was a presbytry. He had a lot of Romish baggage: infant baptism and a church/state arrangement of govt., not unlike the Holy Roman Empire.

Denomination is a word coined in the 16th century. There is a close connection between the Holy See, Protestants and secular history regarding what constitutes a denomination. One of the basic attributes is: several congregations under the control of an outside entity. Words such as diocese, archdiocese, synod, board, etal would apply.

True Baptists faith and practice preceed the Protestant Reformation--some say by 15 centuries.. They are fiercely sovereign and congregational, giving an account to no outside entity, including a government. True Baptists, by definition cannot be called a denomination.

In the case of the present day word: convention, there is a lot of disagreement as to how much sovereignty is relinquished by participating in a convention. Some say none; others a little. Others say any sovereignty lost is a loss of all.

Then there is the situation where an apparently sovereign church which is supposedly governed by the congregation which bows to the recommendations of a board of deacons, the majority of which are long time F&AM. We got trouble--right here in River City. This last observation probably should go to a different thread.

What do we mean when we become an LLC? Has the Bride of Christ become a business?

We need to repent and do the first works.

Peace,

Bro. James

 

Our church constitution lists the current SBC Faith and Message as our statement of belief. Yet, organizationally, we are completely independent. Would you consider our church as a part of a denomination?

 

EW, here's yet another:

Mark Dever's mentor while studying at Cambridge University, Roy Clements.

November 1999 Roy Clements Walks Out

Links to monergism.com's listings of Clements sermons

 

I would not be the one to judge such things.

In as much as there are dozens of groups called Baptist, each tooting a different horn, the term denomination does not fit well. The concept of denomination comes through the Vatican and the Protestant Reformation of the 16th century. True Baptists have never been a part of that which is commonly considered Christendom. Untruths repeated in high places for many centuries do not become true regardless of one's sincerity.

Regarding the SBC having an influence over the sovereignty of participating churches: The Mission Board seems a bit autonomous in deciding who, where, how long and how much is expended in the mission field.

Boards are really not necessary--The Holy Spirit sends and keeps all the God-called missionaries.

Church seems to be a business of sorts--LLCs with lots of paid positions. How many of the Apostles were on salary?

Peace,

Bro. James