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100 FACTS ON THE SABBATH QUESTION

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  1. Claudia_T

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    100 FACTS ON THE SABBATH QUESTION


    Why keep the Sabbath day?

    What is the object of the Sabbath?

    When was it made, who made it, and for whom?

    Which day is the true Sabbath?

    Many keep the first day of the week, or Sunday.

    What Bible authority have they for this?

    Some keep the seventh day, or Saturday.

    What Scripture have they for that?


    Here are the facts about both days, as plainly stated in the word of God.





    Sixty Bible Facts Concerning the Seventh Day.


    1. After working the first six days of the week in creating this earth, the great God rested on the seventh day. Genesis 2:1-3.


    2. This stamped that day as God's rest day, or Sabbath day, as Sabbath day means rest day. To illustrate: When a person is born on a certain day, that day becomes his birthday. So when God rested upon the seventh day, that day became His rest, or Sabbath day.


    3. Therefore the seventh day must always be God's Sabbath day. Can you change your birthday from the day on which you were born to one in which you were not born? No. Neither can you change God's rest day to a day on which He did not rest. Hence the seventh day is still God's Sabbath day.


    4. The Creator blessed the seventh day. Genesis 2:3.


    5. He sanctified the seventh day. Exodus 20:11.


    6. He made it the Sabbath day in the garden of Eden. Genesis 2:1-3.


    7. It was made before the fall; hence it is not a type, for types were not introduced till after the fall.


    8. Jesus says it was made for man (Mark 2:27); that is, for the race, as the word man is here unlimited, hence, for the Gentile as well as for the Jews.


    9. It is a memorial of creation. Exodus 20:11; 31:17. Every time we rest upon the seventh day, as God did at creation, we commemorate the grand event.


    10. It was given to Adam, the head of the human race. Mark 2:27; Genesis 2:1-3.


    11. Hence through him, as our representative, to all nations. Acts 17:26.


    12. It is not a Jewish institution, for it was made 2,300 years before ever there was a jew.


    13. The Bible never calls it the Jewish Sabbath but always "the Sabbath of the Lord thy God." Men should be cautious how they stigmatize God's holy rest day.


    14. Evident reference is made to the Sabbath all through that patriarchal age. Genesis 2:1-3; 8:10, 12; 29:27, 28, ect.


    15. It was a part of God's law before Sinai. Exodus 16:4, 27-29.


    16. Then God placed it in the heart of His moral law. Exodus 20:1-17. Why did He place it there if it was not like the other nine precepts, which all admit to be immutable?


    17. The seventh-day Sabbath was commanded by the voice of the living God. Deuteronomy 4:12, 13.


    18. Then He wrote the commandment with His own finger. Exodus 31:18.


    19. He engraved it in the enduring stone, indicating its imperishable nature. Deuteronomy 5:22.


    20. It was sacredly preserved in the ark in the holy of holies. Deuteronomy 10:1-5.


    21. God forbade work upon the Sabbath, even in the most hurrying times. Exodus 34:21.


    22. God destroyed the Israelites in the wilderness because they profaned the Sabbath. Ezekiel 12:12, 13.


    23. It is the sign of the true God, by which we are to know Him from false gods. Ezekiel 20: 20.


    24. God promised that Jerusalem would stand forever if the Jews would keep the Sabbath. Jeremiah 17:24, 25.


    25. He sent them into the Babylonish captivity for breaking it. Nehemiah 13:18.


    26. He destroyed Jerusalem for its violation. Jeremiah 17:27.


    27. God has pronounced a special blessing on all the Gentiles who keep it. Isaiah 56: 6, 7.


    28. This is in the prophecy which refers wholly to the Christian dispensation. See Isaiah 56.


    29. God has promised to bless every man who keeps the Sabbath. Isaiah 56:2.


    30. The Lord requires us to call it "honorable." Isaiah 58:13. Beware, ye who take delight in calling it the "old Jewish Sabbath," "a yoke of bondage," ect.


    31. After the holy Sabbath has been trodden down for "many generation," it is to be restored in the last days. Isaiah 58:12, 13.


    32. All the holy prophets kept the seventh day.


    33. When the Son of God came, He kept the seventh day all His life. Luke 4:16; John 15:10. Thus He followed His Father's example at creation. Shall we not be safe in following the example of both the Father and the Son?


    34. The seventh day is the Lord's day. See Revelation 1:10; Mark 2:28; Isaiah 58:13; Exodus 20:10.


    35. Jesus was the Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28); that is, to love and protect it, as the husband is the lord of the wife, to love and cherish her. 1 Peter 3:6.


    36. He vindicated the Sabbath as a merciful institution designed for man's good. Mark 2:23-28.


    37. Instead of abolishing the Sabbath, He carefully taught how it should be observed. Matthew 12:1-13.


    38. He taught His disciples that they should do nothing upon the Sabbath day but what was "lawful." Matthew 12:12.


    39. He instructed His apostles that the Sabbath should be prayerfully regarded 40 years after His resurrection. Matthew 24:20.


    40. The pious women who had been with Jesus carefully kept the seventh day after His death. Luke 23:56.


    41. Thirty years after Christ's resurrection, the Holy Spirit expressly calls it "the Sabbath day." Acts 13:14.


    42. Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, called it "the Sabbath day" in A.D. 45. Acts 13:27. Did not Paul know? Or shall we believe modern teachers, who affirm that it ceased to be the Sabbath at the resurrection of Christ?


    43. Luke, the inspired Christian historian, writing as late as A.D. 62, calls it "the Sabbath day." Acts 13:44.


    44. The Gentile converts called it the Sabbath. Acts 13:42.


    45. In the great Christian council, A.D. 52, in the presence of the apostles and thousands of disciples, James calls it the "Sabbath day." Acts 15:21.


    46. It was customary to hold prayer meetings upon that day. Acts 16:13.


    47. Paul read the scriptures in public meetings on that day. Acts 17:2,3.


    48. It was his custom to preach upon that day. Acts 17:2.


    49. The book of Acts alone gives a record of his holding eighty-four meetings upon that day. See Acts 13:4, 44; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4, 11.


    50. There was never any dispute between the Christians and the Jews about the Sabbath day. This is proof that the Christians still observed the same day that Jews did.


    51. In all their accusations against Paul, they never charged him with disregarding the Sabbath day. Why did they not if he did not keep it?


    52. Paul himself expressly declared that he had kept the law. "Neither against the law of the Jews, neither against the temple, nor yet against Caesar, have I offended any thing at all." Acts 25:8. How could this be true if he had not kept the Sabbath?


    53. The Sabbath is mentioned in the New testament 59 times, and is always with respect, bearing the same title it had in the Old Testament, "the Sabbath day."


    54. Not a word is said anywhere in the New testament about the Sabbath's being abolished, done away, changed, or anything of the kind.


    55. God had never given permission to any man to work upon it. Reader, by what authority do you use the seventh day for common labor?


    56. No Christian of the New testament, either before or after the resurrection, ever did ordinary work upon the seventh day. Find one case of that kind, and we will yield the question. Why should modern Christians do differently from Bible Christians?


    57. There is no record that God has ever removed His blessing or sanctification from the seventh day.


    58. As the Sabbath was kept in Eden before the fall, so it will be observed eternally in the new earth after the restitution. Isaiah 66:22, 23.


    59. The seventh-day Sabbath was an important part of the law of God, as it came from His own mouth, and was written by His own finger upon stone at Sinai. See Exodus 20. When Jesus began His work, He expressly declared that He had not come to destroy the law. "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets." Matthew 5:17.


    60. Jesus severely condemned the Pharisees as hypocrites for pretending to love God, while at the same time they made void one of the Ten Commandments by their tradition. The keeping of Sunday is only a tradition of men.


    We have now presented 60 plain Bible facts concerning the Seventh day. What will you do with them?





    Forty Bible Facts Concerning the First day of the Week.


    1. The very first thing recorded in the Bible is work done on Sunday, the first day of the week. Genesis 1:1-5. This was done by the Creator Himself. If God made the earth on Sunday, can it be wicked for us to work on Sunday?


    2. God commands men to work upon the first day of the week. Exodus 20:8-11. Is it wrong to obey God?


    3. None of the patriarchs ever kept it.


    4. None of the holy prophets ever kept it.


    5. By the express command of God, His holy people used the first day of the week as a common working day for 4,000 years, at least.


    6. God Himself calls it a "working" day. Ezekiel 46:1.


    7. God did not rest upon it.


    8. He never blessed it.


    9. Christ did not rest upon it.


    10. Jesus was a carpenter (Mark 6:3) and worked at His trade until He was 30 years old. He kept the Sabbath and worked six days in the week, as all admit. Hence He did many a hard day's work on Sunday.


    11. The apostles worked upon it during the same time.


    12. The apostles never rested upon it.


    13. Christ never blessed it.


    14. It has never been blessed by any divine authority.


    15. It has never been sanctified.


    16. No law was ever given to enforce the keeping of it; hence it is no transgression to work upon it. "For where no law is, there is no transgression." Romans 4:15; (1 John 3:4).


    17. The New Testament nowhere forbids work to be done on it.


    18. No penalty is provided for its violation.


    19. No blessing is promised for its observance.


    20. No regulation is given as to how it ought to be observed. Would this be so if the Lord wished us to keep it?


    21. It is never called the Christian Sabbath.


    22. It is never called the Sabbath day at all.


    23. It is never called the Lord's day.


    24. It is never called even a rest day.


    25. No sacred title whatever is applied to it. Then why should we call it holy?


    26. It is simple called "first day of the week."


    27. Jesus never mentioned it in any way--never took its name upon His lips as far as the record shows.


    28. The word Sunday never occurs in the Bible at all.


    29. Neither God, Christ, nor inspired men, ever said one word in favor of Sunday as a holy day.


    30. The first day of the week is mentioned only eight times in all the New Testament. Matthew 28:1; Mark 16:2, 9; Luke 24:1; John 20:1, 19; Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2.


    31. Six of these texts refer to the same first day of the week.


    32. Paul directed the saints to look over their secular affairs on that day. 1 Corinthians 16:2.


    33. In all the New Testament we have a record of only one religious meeting held upon that day. Acts 20:5-12.


    34. There is not an intimation that they ever held a meeting on it before or after that.


    35. It was not their custom to meet on that day.


    36. There was no requirement to break bread on that day.


    37. We have an account of only one instance in which it was done. Acts 20:7.


    38. That was done in the night--after midnight. Verses 7-11. Jesus celebrated it on Thursday evening, (Luke 22), and the disciples sometimes did it every day. Acts 2:42-46.


    39. The Bible nowhere says that the first day of the week commemorates the resurrection of Christ. This is a tradition of men, which makes void the law of God. Matthew 15:1-9. Baptism commemorates the burial and resurrection of Jesus. Romans 6:3-5.


    40. Finally, the New testament is totally silent with regard to any change of the Sabbath day or sacredness for the first day.


    So after reviewing these 100 plain Bible facts upon this question, showing conclusively that the seventh day of the week, or Saturday, is the Sabbath of the Lord in both the Old and New testaments, what should be our response to this fourth commandment of God?

    "For he spake in a certain place on the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works....There remaineth therefore a rest (Sabbath) to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the save example of unbelief." Hebrews 4:4, 9-11.


    "And hereby we do know that we know him (God), if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him....By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous." 1 John 2:3-5, 5:2-3.


    "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city (of God). For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie." Revelation 22:14.


    "Let us here the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil." Ecclesiastes 12:13-14
     
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    2. This stamped that day as God's rest day, or Sabbath day, as Sabbath day means rest day. To illustrate: When a person is born on a certain day, that day becomes his birthday. So when God rested upon the seventh day, that day became His rest, or Sabbath day.

    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">again no command to keep it </pre>[/QUOTE]3. Therefore the seventh day must always be God's Sabbath day. Can you change your birthday from the day on which you were born to one in which you were not born? No. Neither can you change God's rest day to a day on which He did not rest. Hence the seventh day is still God's Sabbath day.

    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">and no where in scripture does it call the sabbath saturnday </pre>[/QUOTE]4. The Creator blessed the seventh day. Genesis 2:3.
    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">he also blessed the Temple, and the Temple was for Jews </pre>[/QUOTE]5. He sanctified the seventh day. Exodus 20:11.

    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
    Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
    typical out of context quote, as the whole quote says WHO the sabbath was for </pre>[/QUOTE]6. He made it the Sabbath day in the garden of Eden. Genesis 2:1-3.

    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">so what he NEVER told them to keep it, but did tell them not to eat of the tree in the middle of the Garden, and to be fruitful and multiply (both imaprative in hebrew) </pre>[/QUOTE]7. It was made before the fall; hence it is not a type, for types were not introduced till after the fall.
    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">but the bible says: Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
    Col 2:17 Which are a SHADOW of things to come; but the body is of Christ. </pre>[/QUOTE]8. Jesus says it was made for man (Mark 2:27); that is, for the race, as the word man is here unlimited, hence, for the Gentile as well as for the Jews.

    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">no Jesus was speaking to JEWS, and it clearly says that man was NOT created for the sabbath. as the whole context indicates: Mar 2:24 And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful?
    Mar 2:25 And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him?
    Mar 2:26 How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?
    Mar 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
    Mar 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath. </pre>[/QUOTE]9. It is a memorial of creation. Exodus 20:11; 31:17. Every time we rest upon the seventh day, as God did at creation, we commemorate the grand event.
    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">another out of context quote as the full context clearly says it was JUST FOR JEWS:
    Exo 31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
    </pre>[/QUOTE]10. It was given to Adam, the head of the human race. Mark 2:27; Genesis 2:1-3.

    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">hahahaha you really gonna try to fly that plane, with out of context quotes, again </pre>[/QUOTE]11. Hence through him, as our representative, to all nations. Acts 17:26.

    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">what acts 17:26 says no such thing:

    Act 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
    </pre>[/QUOTE]12. It is not a Jewish institution, for it was made 2,300 years before ever there was a jew.

    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">no proof though </pre>[/QUOTE]13. The Bible never calls it the Jewish Sabbath but always "the Sabbath of the Lord thy God." Men should be cautious how they stigmatize God's holy rest day. </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">yes it does, but you have to read more than one verse in a row:
    Exo 31:17 It is a sign between me and THE CHILDREN OF ISREAL for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. </pre>[/QUOTE]14. Evident reference is made to the Sabbath all through that patriarchal age. Genesis 2:1-3; 8:10, 12; 29:27, 28, ect. </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;"> again the word for the sabbath celebrated by the JEWS does not appear in Genesis, read the hebrew, none of those verses in genesis are about a special sabbath day, nice try though </pre>[/QUOTE]15. It was a part of God's law before Sinai. Exodus 16:4, 27-29.
    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;"> yet another out of context quote, God had told them no to gather food after the six days of gathering manna, and some did (clearly indicating they had no knowledge of the sabbath) and found nothing, then God says they have disobeyed his commandments and statues (not to gather manna but six days a week) </pre>[/QUOTE]16. Then God placed it in the heart of His moral law. Exodus 20:1-17. Why did He place it there if it was not like the other nine precepts, which all admit to be immutable? </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">where in those verses does it say that, for those clearly say that God spake: Exo 20:1 And God spake all these words, saying,
    </pre>[/QUOTE]17. The seventh-day Sabbath was commanded by the voice of the living God. Deuteronomy 4:12, 13.
    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;"> </pre>[/QUOTE]18. Then He wrote the commandment with His own finger. Exodus 31:18.
    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;"> he also wrote this with his own hand:
    Dan 5:23 But hast lifted up thyself against the Lord of heaven; and they have brought the vessels of his house before thee, and thou, and thy lords, thy wives, and thy concubines, have drunk wine in them; and thou hast praised the gods of silver, and gold, of brass, iron, wood, and stone, which see not, nor hear, nor know: and the God in whose hand thy breath is, and whose are all thy ways, hast thou not glorified:
    Dan 5:24 Then was the part of the hand sent from him; and this writing was written.
    Dan 5:25 And this is the writing that was written, MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN.
    </pre>[/QUOTE]19. He engraved it in the enduring stone, indicating its imperishable nature. Deuteronomy 5:22. </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">indicates no such thing, and has no parallel in scripture </pre>[/QUOTE]20. It was sacredly preserved in the ark in the holy of holies. Deuteronomy 10:1-5.
    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;"> so was manna, and arrons rod </pre>[/QUOTE]21. God forbade work upon the Sabbath, even in the most hurrying times. Exodus 34:21.

    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;"> no this says that plowing could not be done on the sabbath</pre>[/QUOTE]22. God destroyed the Israelites in the wilderness because they profaned the Sabbath. Ezekiel 12:12, 13.
    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;"> but no recording of gentile being destroyed for the same thing </pre>[/QUOTE]23. It is the sign of the true God, by which we are to know Him from false gods. Ezekiel 20: 20.

    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">Eze 20:18 But I said unto their children in the wilderness, Walk ye not in the statutes of your fathers, neither observe their judgments, nor defile yourselves with their idols:
    Eze 20:19 I am the LORD your God; walk in my statutes, and keep my judgments, and do them;
    Eze 20:20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God. oops you forgot the verses saying to whom they were directed, nice out of context quote
    </pre>[/QUOTE]24. God promised that Jerusalem would stand forever if the Jews would keep the Sabbath. Jeremiah 17:24, 25. </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;"> again nice try: but in context: Jer 17:20 And say unto them, Hear ye the word of the LORD, ye kings of Judah, and all Judah, and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, that enter in by these gates:
    Jer 17:21 Thus saith the LORD; Take heed to yourselves, and bear no burden on the sabbath day, nor bring it in by the gates of Jerusalem;
    Jer 17:22 Neither carry forth a burden out of your houses on the sabbath day, neither do ye any work, but hallow ye the sabbath day, as I commanded your fathers.
    Jer 17:23 But they obeyed not, neither inclined their ear, but made their neck stiff, that they might not hear, nor receive instruction.
    Jer 17:24 And it shall come to pass, if ye diligently hearken unto me, saith the LORD, to bring in no burden through the gates of this city on the sabbath day, but hallow the sabbath day, to do no work therein;
    Jer 17:25 Then shall there enter into the gates of this city kings and princes sitting upon the throne of David, riding in chariots and on horses, they, and their princes, the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem: and this city shall remain for ever.
    </pre>[/QUOTE]25. He sent them into the Babylonish captivity for breaking it. Nehemiah 13:18.
    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;"> so what, THEY were commanded to keep it </pre>[/QUOTE]26. He destroyed Jerusalem for its violation. Jeremiah 17:27.

    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">is that the ONLY reason it was destroyed? no but if you take it out of context it looks like it </pre>[/QUOTE]27. God has pronounced a special blessing on all the Gentiles who keep it. Isaiah 56: 6, 7.

    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;"> the law was still in effect, Jesus had not released us from it, where it was nailed to the cross, man was not made for the sabbath </pre>[/QUOTE]28. This is in the prophecy which refers wholly to the Christian dispensation. See Isaiah 56.

    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">um, if you say so </pre>[/QUOTE]29. God has promised to bless every man who keeps the Sabbath. Isaiah 56:2.
    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;"> Isaiah was written to JEWS </pre>[/QUOTE]30. The Lord requires us to call it "honorable." Isaiah 58:13. Beware, ye who take delight in calling it the "old Jewish Sabbath," "a yoke of bondage," ect.
    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;"> again written to Jews, and just to clarify here is the context, notice to whom it was written:
    Isa 58:1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.
    Isa 58:2 Yet they seek me daily, and delight to know my ways, as a nation that did righteousness, and forsook not the ordinance of their God: they ask of me the ordinances of justice; they take delight in approaching to God.
    Isa 58:3 Wherefore have we fasted, say they, and thou seest not? wherefore have we afflicted our soul, and thou takest no knowledge? Behold, in the day of your fast ye find pleasure, and exact all your labours.
    Isa 58:4 Behold, ye fast for strife and debate, and to smite with the fist of wickedness: ye shall not fast as ye do this day, to make your voice to be heard on high.
    Isa 58:5 Is it such a fast that I have chosen? a day for a man to afflict his soul? is it to bow down his head as a bulrush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the LORD?
    Isa 58:6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?
    Isa 58:7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?
    Isa 58:8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy rereward.
    Isa 58:9 Then shalt thou call, and the LORD shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity;
    Isa 58:10 And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noonday:
    Isa 58:11 And the LORD shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.
    Isa 58:12 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.
    Isa 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
    Isa 58:14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

    </pre>[/QUOTE]31. After the holy Sabbath has been trodden down for "many generation," it is to be restored in the last days. Isaiah 58:12, 13.


    32. All the holy prophets kept the seventh day.


    33. When the Son of God came, He kept the seventh day all His life. Luke 4:16; John 15:10. Thus He followed His Father's example at creation. Shall we not be safe in following the example of both the Father and the Son?

    Jesus also kept the dietary laws and the civil laws and every ceremonial law, maybe we should get "mitzpha'd"


    34. The seventh day is the Lord's day. See Revelation 1:10; Mark 2:28; Isaiah 58:13; Exodus 20:10.


    35. Jesus was the Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28); that is, to love and protect it, as the husband is the lord of the wife, to love and cherish her. 1 Peter 3:6.


    36. He vindicated the Sabbath as a merciful institution designed for man's good. Mark 2:23-28.


    37. Instead of abolishing the Sabbath, He carefully taught how it should be observed. Matthew 12:1-13.


    38. He taught His disciples that they should do nothing upon the Sabbath day but what was "lawful." Matthew 12:12.


    39. He instructed His apostles that the Sabbath should be prayerfully regarded 40 years after His resurrection. Matthew 24:20.


    40. The pious women who had been with Jesus carefully kept the seventh day after His death. Luke 23:56.


    41. Thirty years after Christ's resurrection, the Holy Spirit expressly calls it "the Sabbath day." Acts 13:14.


    42. Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, called it "the Sabbath day" in A.D. 45. Acts 13:27. Did not Paul know? Or shall we believe modern teachers, who affirm that it ceased to be the Sabbath at the resurrection of Christ?
    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;"> Col 2:16, out of context quotes do not help judaizers, as we have all scriptures and can check for ourselves, and which sabbath was it that they kept, hopefully you know about ALL sabbaths jews had to keep at the feast of unleavened bread </pre>[/QUOTE]43. Luke, the inspired Christian historian, writing as late as A.D. 62, calls it "the Sabbath day." Acts 13:44.


    44. The Gentile converts called it the Sabbath. Acts 13:42.
    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">where were they at again? we know lots of gentiles regularly attended synagog (as they were God fearers under the old covenant) </pre>[/QUOTE]45. In the great Christian council, A.D. 52, in the presence of the apostles and thousands of disciples, James calls it the "Sabbath day." Acts 15:21.


    46. It was customary to hold prayer meetings upon that day. Acts 16:13.


    47. Paul read the scriptures in public meetings on that day. Acts 17:2,3.


    48. It was his custom to preach upon that day. Acts 17:2.


    49. The book of Acts alone gives a record of his holding eighty-four meetings upon that day. See Acts 13:4, 44; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4, 11.
    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;"> so what, stating on which day something happened (due to most being Jewish where would you go to find Jews in a group) </pre>[/QUOTE]50. There was never any dispute between the Christians and the Jews about the Sabbath day. This is proof that the Christians still observed the same day that Jews did.
    </font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">accept history clearly indicates otherwise </pre>[/QUOTE]51. In all their accusations against Paul, they never charged him with disregarding the Sabbath day. Why did they not if he did not keep it?

    paul was a jew

    52. Paul himself expressly declared that he had kept the law. "Neither against the law of the Jews, neither against the temple, nor yet against Caesar, have I offended any thing at all." Acts 25:8. How could this be true if he had not kept the Sabbath?


    53. The Sabbath is mentioned in the New testament 59 times, and is always with respect, bearing the same title it had in the Old Testament, "the Sabbath day."


    54. Not a word is said anywhere in the New testament about the Sabbath's being abolished, done away, changed, or anything of the kind.


    55. God had never given permission to any man to work upon it. Reader, by what authority do you use the seventh day for common labor?


    56. No Christian of the New testament, either before or after the resurrection, ever did ordinary work upon the seventh day. Find one case of that kind, and we will yield the question. Why should modern Christians do differently from Bible Christians?


    57. There is no record that God has ever removed His blessing or sanctification from the seventh day.


    58. As the Sabbath was kept in Eden before the fall, so it will be observed eternally in the new earth after the restitution. Isaiah 66:22, 23.


    59. The seventh-day Sabbath was an important part of the law of God, as it came from His own mouth, and was written by His own finger upon stone at Sinai. See Exodus 20. When Jesus began His work, He expressly declared that He had not come to destroy the law. "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets." Matthew 5:17.


    60. Jesus severely condemned the Pharisees as hypocrites for pretending to love God, while at the same time they made void one of the Ten Commandments by their tradition. The keeping of Sunday is only a tradition of men.


    We have now presented 60 plain Bible facts concerning the Seventh day. What will you do with them?





    Forty Bible Facts Concerning the First day of the Week.


    1. The very first thing recorded in the Bible is work done on Sunday, the first day of the week. Genesis 1:1-5. This was done by the Creator Himself. If God made the earth on Sunday, can it be wicked for us to work on Sunday?


    2. God commands men to work upon the first day of the week. Exodus 20:8-11. Is it wrong to obey God?


    3. None of the patriarchs ever kept it.


    4. None of the holy prophets ever kept it.


    5. By the express command of God, His holy people used the first day of the week as a common working day for 4,000 years, at least.


    6. God Himself calls it a "working" day. Ezekiel 46:1.


    7. God did not rest upon it.


    8. He never blessed it.


    9. Christ did not rest upon it.


    10. Jesus was a carpenter (Mark 6:3) and worked at His trade until He was 30 years old. He kept the Sabbath and worked six days in the week, as all admit. Hence He did many a hard day's work on Sunday.


    11. The apostles worked upon it during the same time.


    12. The apostles never rested upon it.


    13. Christ never blessed it.


    14. It has never been blessed by any divine authority.


    15. It has never been sanctified.


    16. No law was ever given to enforce the keeping of it; hence it is no transgression to work upon it. "For where no law is, there is no transgression." Romans 4:15; (1 John 3:4).


    17. The New Testament nowhere forbids work to be done on it.


    18. No penalty is provided for its violation.


    19. No blessing is promised for its observance.


    20. No regulation is given as to how it ought to be observed. Would this be so if the Lord wished us to keep it?


    21. It is never called the Christian Sabbath.


    22. It is never called the Sabbath day at all.


    23. It is never called the Lord's day.


    24. It is never called even a rest day.


    25. No sacred title whatever is applied to it. Then why should we call it holy?


    26. It is simple called "first day of the week."


    27. Jesus never mentioned it in any way--never took its name upon His lips as far as the record shows.


    28. The word Sunday never occurs in the Bible at all.


    29. Neither God, Christ, nor inspired men, ever said one word in favor of Sunday as a holy day.


    30. The first day of the week is mentioned only eight times in all the New Testament. Matthew 28:1; Mark 16:2, 9; Luke 24:1; John 20:1, 19; Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2.


    31. Six of these texts refer to the same first day of the week.


    32. Paul directed the saints to look over their secular affairs on that day. 1 Corinthians 16:2.


    33. In all the New Testament we have a record of only one religious meeting held upon that day. Acts 20:5-12.


    34. There is not an intimation that they ever held a meeting on it before or after that.


    35. It was not their custom to meet on that day.


    36. There was no requirement to break bread on that day.


    37. We have an account of only one instance in which it was done. Acts 20:7.


    38. That was done in the night--after midnight. Verses 7-11. Jesus celebrated it on Thursday evening, (Luke 22), and the disciples sometimes did it every day. Acts 2:42-46.


    39. The Bible nowhere says that the first day of the week commemorates the resurrection of Christ. This is a tradition of men, which makes void the law of God. Matthew 15:1-9. Baptism commemorates the burial and resurrection of Jesus. Romans 6:3-5.


    40. Finally, the New testament is totally silent with regard to any change of the Sabbath day or sacredness for the first day.


    So after reviewing these 100 plain Bible facts upon this question, showing conclusively that the seventh day of the week, or Saturday, is the Sabbath of the Lord in both the Old and New testaments, what should be our response to this fourth commandment of God?

    "For he spake in a certain place on the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works....There remaineth therefore a rest (Sabbath) to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the save example of unbelief." Hebrews 4:4, 9-11.


    "And hereby we do know that we know him (God), if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him....By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous." 1 John 2:3-5, 5:2-3.


    "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city (of God). For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie." Revelation 22:14.


    "Let us here the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil." Ecclesiastes 12:13-14
    [/quote]my kids want to swim so i have to go will finish up later, for more info on the heresy of sabbath keeping check out: http://bibletruths.150m.com/Seventh.html

    thank you and God bless

    i will answer all point before i answer respond to the points please be patient with me.
     
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    Unfortunately, some would claim that the 100 facts about the Sabbath that I posted are not even relevant because now, they claim, "all we have to do is have love".


    Christ’s New Commandment

    In John 13:34-35, Christ stated, “A new commandment I give unto you, That you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this shall all men know that you are My disciples, if you have love one to another.” Christ also commanded this in Matthew 22: “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself” (vs. 37-39).

    There is no hint of God’s law being done away, suspended or replaced by “love” or any other religious sounding phrase.

    In Matthew 22, the old standard was to love others as yourself. But in John 13, Christ gives us a new and higher standard—to love others as He loves us.


    New Commandment From John

    Now read I John 2:7-9: “Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which you had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which you have heard from the beginning. Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in Him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shines. He that says he is in the light, and hates his brother, is in darkness even until now.”


    In II John 5-6, John stated, “And now I beseech you, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto you, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another. And this is love, that we walk after His commandments. This is the commandment, That, as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it.”

    As before, this scripture does away with nothing. In fact, what John calls a new commandment still applies today. Notice the statement, “And this is love, that we walk after His commandments.” This is the same as I John 5:3: “For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments: and His commandments are not grievous.”

    Here is how Paul summed up God’s wonderful, perfect Law: “Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good” (Rom. 7:12).


    Now consider Matthew 19:16-19: “And, behold, one came and said unto Him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And He said unto him, Why call you Me good? There is none good but One, that is, God: but if you will enter into life, keep the commandments. He said unto Him, Which? Jesus said, You shall do no murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, Honor your father and your mother: and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

    The last six commandments (five are cited here) summarize love and concern toward other people: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

    Many wrongly assume that the Old Testament makes little or no mention of love. They assume that Christ introduced for the first time the concept of “love” during His ministry, and that the God of the Old Testament was too strict and harsh and lacked love and mercy. This assumption is wrong.


    In fact, the Old Testament books of the Law—Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy—build directly upon the principle of love. Here is what Deuteronomy states: “And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might” (6:5). This passage is the same as the original “Great Commandment,” cited in Matthew 22:37. Love toward God is the first step to obedience within His Law.

    How many people have been taught that the Old Testament stresses this?

    Love toward neighbor is the second step in obedience to God. Leviticus 19:18 states, “You shall not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord.” This admonition—what is the original “golden rule”—came from Leviticus 19, and, again, Leviticus is in the Old Testament! It was not a new teaching of the New Testament, as most have erroneously believed.


    Love, mercy, consideration—outgoing, outflowing concern for others—were all attributes possessed and taught by the God of the Old Testament.

    Let’s return to the New Testament. Matthew 5:21-22 shows how Christ “magnified” the law, and made it “honorable” (Isa. 42:21), effectively expanding it and making it more binding than before: “You have heard that it was said by them of old time, You shall not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment. But I say unto you, that whosoever is angry with his brother…shall be in danger of the judgment.”

    Just as this commandment was greatly expanded, so were all the others. Far from doing away with the law, Christ made it much more binding.

    The Ten Commandments are actually categorized into two sections. The first four commandments define man’s relationship to God. The last six define his relationship with his fellow human beings. This was also reinforced by Christ. Notice: “Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked Him a question, tempting Him, and saying, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets” (Matt. 22:35-40).

    LOVE AND THE TEN COMMANDMENTS ARE ONE AND THE SAME THING- we are not free to make our own human definition of Love:

    Romans 13:
    9: For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
    10: Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.


    What If…?

    Now we consider the greatest question: What if the whole world kept the Ten Commandments? What if everyone obeyed Christ’s instruction to keep this entire law?

    People would no longer idolize anything or anyone, because they would put God first in their lives. God’s name would no longer be misused or carelessly thrown around. Everyone would keep the Sabbath on the seventh day of the week. Families would be happier because people would honor their physical parents and their spiritual Father. There would be no more hatred, killing or war. Husbands and wives would be faithful to each other, and there would be no more illegitimate births. There would be no more sexually transmitted diseases. There would be no more thefts, robberies or embezzlements. Slander, perjury, and gossip would be things of the past. People would not lust for anything that belongs to someone else.

    Then why do so many Christians act as if keeping the Ten Commandments were some sort of terrible thing that God doesnt ask us to do? It is absurd to think that now in New Testament times we "merely" have to love one another, and then claim it is now permissible to break the Ten Commandments.

    1Jn:3:4: Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

    Rom:6:14: For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

    Rom:6:15: What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

    Jn:8:34: Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

    1Jn:3:4: Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

    Why did Jesus die for us? did He die to give us a license to sin, to break the Law of God?

    1Jn:3:8: He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
     
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    never mind you won't listen anyway, no amount of proof would comvince you, you are already convinced.
     
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    ONE FACT ABOUT THE SABBATH DAY FOR ME: PHILIPPIANS 3:10!
    See the relationship; discover the connection - no Russian connection, no Jewish connection, but the Christian connection, and be liberalised! "Feast your Sabbath Days!" is Paul's admonishment for the very same REASON, given in Colossians 2:15-17!
    See the relation? Found the Essence?
    Try Hebrews 4:4-5 and 8-10 - Seen the resaon? Seen the power, the motive?
    Are you blind that you cannot see Jesus' resurrection from the dead "the reason for being of a keeping of the Sabbath for the People of God"?
    Then I have no word further for you! Or perhaps, also read John - "The third day I finish (the works the Father gave me)" - and see the exceeding greatness of the power of God as He raises jesus Christ from the dead "In Sabbath's-time" - discover the rest of God from "ALL his works"!
     
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