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2 Important Considerations #NeverTrumpers Seem to Neglect

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Benjamin, Sep 28, 2016.

  1. InTheLight

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    How many times has it been said, "Anybody but Hillary" and "the next President will nominate judges to the Supreme Court"? That's the minimum requirement of many GOP voters.
     
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    Nobody but you and the other nominee for drama queen said anything about prostitutes. Drama, over the top drama.
     
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    Apparently that has already occurred.

    or should I say that has allegedly occurred.
     
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    Really? So you are saying that building and owning strip clubs is not the same thing?
     
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    Gonna try to make your over the drama stand up now?
    Being a prostitute and owning strip clubs is now the same thing? I hope you realize how ridiculous that sounds.

    I hate to break this to you , but Jesus won't be running for president. All of them have been sinners and that's all we will ever get a chance to elect. You need to come back to planet earth.

    Cloaking your dislike of Trump and your disappointment that some other sinner you liked better didn't win the nomination in false righteousness does you no credit. You're the same guy that supported a non Christian Morman against a non Christian Obama, if I remember correctly.
     
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    You've said numerous times you're voting for Trump because you can't allow Hillary to become President. That is "anyone but Hillary", right there.
     
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    Not as ridiculous as pedophilia and homosexuality is the same thing.

    Please tell us that prostitution and strip clubs are mutually exclusive activities.

    Strawman argument. We know Jesus is not running. What we want is someone that professes faith in Jesus, admits to having asked God for forgiveness, can quote ONE, ONE Bible verse, states there is only one way to Heaven, knows what a communion plate looks like, etc.

    Pointing out the unrighteousness of a presidential candidate is not the same thing as proclaiming oneself righteous.

    OK, I voted for Romney last time. I learn from my mistakes. I wouldn't be doing that again this year. I wouldn't vote for Kasich, for example, if he were the nominee. Keep voting for these defective candidates and you'll keep getting them.
     
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    First, it is not ridiculous it is the same thing. Second are you aware of what else comes with strip clubs, prostitution, sex trafficking etc. Nothing ridiculous about it.

    1. You do not know my motivation. I in fact support most of what Trump says he will do. I cannot trust him to actually do it but I agree with much of what he says.

    2. The reason why we have corrupt politicians is because folks like you vote for them in advance.

    3. I did not support Romney or even McCain. Neither did I vote for either one of them. Sorry but your tea leaves are wrong.
     
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    No it is not-
    I would not want a member of the Phelps family (Westboro "Baptist" church).
    so, yes there are others that might be worse than Hillary.

    Therefore, I am NOT "Anyone but Hillary"
    I am "NEVER HILLARY"
     
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  10. InTheLight

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    <Sigh> But Trump supporters continually point out that there are only two people that have a chance to be president. Besides, Phelps isn't running for president.

    The amount of rationalization that Christians will engage in to justify their support of Trump is astonishing.
     
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    In case you missed it - I NEVER said a Phelps is running for President.

    In REALITY - that is correct.
    Can you give me a VALID example of one of the other candidates actually having a chance to win?
     
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    Yea, the old "Jesus isn't running for President" takes the cake.
     
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    Yep. Likewise, "We're not voting for Pastor of the United States" is the frosting on the cake. As if we should just ignore a candidate's religious beliefs and morality.

    And it takes a lot to ignore a guy that's never asked God for forgiveness, can't quote a Bible verse, compares his own book to the Bible, doesn't know what a communion plate looks like, calls the second book of Corinthians "Two Corinthians", has built casinos, has built strip joints, has strip joints inside his casinos, supports gay marriage, supports genderless bathrooms, has been married three times, his latest wife has posed nude (and in provocative poses with other women), says STD's was his own personal Vietnam, lies like a rug, has refused to pay people for work performed, publicizes himself by acting as his own publicist under a fake name, denigrates women, says the IRS audits him because he's "such a strong Christian", etc. etc. etc.
     
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    After making headlines last week for saying Donald Trump is a "baby Christian" who has accepted a relationship with Jesus, evangelical leader James Dobson has emphasized that even though the Republican nominee is still maturing in his Christian walk, that is no reason to not vote for him and give Hillary Clinton the power to "run the world."

    After the presumptive Republican presidential nominee met with over 900 evangelical leaders in New York City last Tuesday, Dobson, the founder of Focus on the Family and Family Talk radio, said during an interview with Pastor Michael Anthony of GodFactor.com that Trump "did accept a relationship with Christ."

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    Although Trump professes to be Presbyterian, some evangelicals are quick to dismiss Trump's Christian faith because of remarks he has made in the past that make it seem as though he is not aware of some of the essential components of the Christian faith, such as asking those you have hurt or offended for forgiveness.

    White, however, asserted that Trump's limited knowledge of "Christianese" does not mean that he is not a Christian.

    The minister told CBN that she has spent a lot of time in prayer with Trump in the past, and finds any argument that Trump is "not saved" to be the "furthest thing from the truth."

    "Quite honestly, he doesn't know our Christianese and perhaps our language that we know in the Christian world," White told Brody. ... "I have had those private times of prayer with him, conversations with him, where someone [else] might take a soundbite and say 'See, he is not saved,' or 'He doesn't love God.' That is the furthest thing from the truth."

    Continue . . . http://www.christianpost.com/news/j...hite-led-donald-trump-to-jesus-christ-165844/
     
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    Think of it: Christians and conservatives would not support the third-party candidacy of Pat Buchanan or Ron Paul or Howard Phillips or Michael Peroutka or Chuck Baldwin. Instead, they chose to support Dole and Bush and McCain and Romney. Obviously, the “he can’t win” charge levied against the above-mentioned third-party candidates sure looks anemic, because Bush and Dole and McCain and Romney couldn’t win either. Yet, each third-party candidate listed was in almost total agreement with the values and principles held by most evangelical Christians and so-called “conservatives,” while the establishment GOP candidates were NOT. No matter. If he wasn’t a Republican, he wouldn’t (and didn’t) get their support.

    Now, we have the consummate liberal Democrat Hillary Clinton as that party’s most likely presidential nominee. But instead of Christians and conservatives coalescing around the Republican nominee, Donald Trump, they are using phrases normally reserved for Democrats.

    How many times did I hear people touting the candidacies of John McCain and Mitt Romney say, “Anyone but Barack Obama”? How many times did I hear people touting the candidacies of H.W. Bush and Bob Dole say, “Anyone but Bill Clinton”? But now these same people are saying, “Anyone but Donald Trump.” Really? Are these Christians and conservatives really willing to give the election to Hillary? It appears so.

    It has become obvious that all of the talk over these past several decades about electing the lesser evil Republicans to keep the greater evil Democrats from winning the White House was just so much balderdash and poppycock.

    Continue . . . http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Article...d-Conservatives-To-Support-A-Third-Party.aspx
     
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    Some people have enough sense to understand that meant anyone amongst the republican candidates running. It was your leap of imagination that decided to include "prostitutes". I don't believe there were any running.
     
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    What was your mistake, exactly? What has Romney done to make your vote a "mistake"? Do you really believe the country is better off after 4 more years of Obama than it would have been with Romney?
     
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    Both are sinful. Are you now telling us that some sins are worse than others in the eyes of God? Last I heard , there was only one unforgivable sin.

    You need to get your act together ,Rev. In justifying your decision with false self righteousness, you are forgetting what the Bible actually teaches.

    Is the person you are supporting for president sinless? Do you know what his or her sins are? Only God knows what hides in the heart of man.
     
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    And you.
     
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