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2 Important Considerations #NeverTrumpers Seem to Neglect

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Benjamin, Sep 28, 2016.

  1. Revmitchell

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    The use of "prostitutes" is used to show the depth of depravity of the immoral nature of Trump. His building and owning casinos with strip clubs is just as bad, equal to, and discredits his moral character the same as if he were a prostitute. Maybe it does not with you. Maybe you find strip clubs ok and visit them regularly but Christians should not take part in or condone anyone who does as being a moral person. Certainly not qualified for the office of the President.

    Further, strip clubs are almost always part of sex trafficking and prostitution. Even if Trump had no interest in being involved in sex trafficking and prostitution, the fact that he condones the very industry that births those activities again brings his character into question.
     
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    We have sinful politicians because men are sinful. And you vote for them , as well. Your holier than thou act is falling flat.
     
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    And every other man.
    Can you now read their hearts and tell us which one is more sinful, as well as propose to set yourself up as an authority on what sins are worse than other...when you don't even know what the sins are?
     
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    Is murder worse than lying? What are the consequences of murder and what are the consequences of lying? Are strip clubs worse than stealing a candy bar? What are the consequences of steal candy and what are the consequences of being involved in a strip club?

    Yes some sins are worse than others. Those who intentionally and actively take part in sin and justify it as good are far different than someone who recognizes sin as sin and while they may fail they work to avoid it. No one is perfect but some people have bad character and some people have good character.

    Not sure why this needs to be explained.
     
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    Your attempt to paint conservative non-Trump supporters as being self-righteous is failing.
     
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    Ok I don't mind responding to your posts but they need to be coherent. Want to try this one again?
     
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    Miserably.
     
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    Facts are stubborn things, but not nearly as stubborn as people.
     
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    So you do not believe our politicians should have a good moral character?
     
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    Nope. It's clear enough.
     
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    Voting for someone that held liberal positions on abortion, gun control, among others, who then had a change of heart when he decided to seek the GOP nomination of president. Basically, voting for a RINO.

    Gave rise to yet another liberal masquerading as a conservative when seeking the GOP nomination. Given us another RINO.

    No. But there you go again with your situational ethics, your moral relativism. You may now brand me as being self-righteous, I'll wait.
     
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    Can you read their hearts? Do you know all the sins they have committed?

    Is the one that has earned your support sinless, or have you just decided his sins are not as bad as Trumps?

    BTW, just who do you support?
     
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    This country will further deteriorate if Hillary is President, it is likely she will continue to push us toward a one world government, and even still it is not wise to vote for a corrupt and immoral man like Trump.
     
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    Consider it done.
     
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    Out of time. I'll leave this discussion, for the time being, to you two paragons of virtue.
     
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    Your non-answer to the question, "So you do not believe our politicians should have a good moral character?", is enlightening.
     
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    InTheLight said:
    <Sigh> But Trump supporters continually point out that there are only two people that have a chance to be president.

    In REALITY - that is correct.
    Can you give me a VALID example of one of the other candidates actually having a chance to win?[/QUOTE]

    Still waiting on an answer.
     
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    No but we have evidence about Trump's heart since he has build and own strip clubs. So their actions show their heart.

    Castle and no he is not sinless but he has high moral character. Really, this needs no explanation. You are a smart fella this is basic stuff.
     
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    Of course I can't give an example of a third party candidate that can win in 2016. But if we keep on voting for whomever they put up there, we'll keep getting lousy choices. We've got to break out of that pattern if we truly want change. That's why people need to really start objecting to the candidates that are foisted upon them by voting for third party candidates.
     
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    Anyone who argues that our politicians do not have to have a strong moral character has lost the debate.
     
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