#2: Why so much against KJB-only?

Peace and love to you all in Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior!

Sorry Ed, but I do not see your point regarding this.


Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

English Revised Version. American Standard Version.

 

The JW's "bible" comes from the W&H Greek Text(Matt 7:20).Find a JW "bible" and look and see...Arian doctrine and all...

Hardly.

 

The WTBTS proudly admits that the Westcott and Hort Greek text is the basis for their New Testament.

Quoting from page 5 of their Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures:

"In the broad left-hand colum of the pages will be found the Greek text edited by B.F. Westcott and F.J.A. Hort, and published in 1881.

There are other quotes to this effect that I have from them, I just need to dig them up.


Jim

 

The JWs did a incredibly poor job of translating. Actually, their Interlinear proves that, and I think they stopped producing it because of that reason.

It is not the fault of the W/H text that a cult misused it, just as it is not the fault of the KJV that the same cult misused that too. Just because some people drink and drive doesn't mean car manufacturers are evil.

 

Peace and love to you all in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour!

Ed,

Thank you for explaining your first post to me, and I also appreciate your kindness. I agree with what you say, however, I also must still disagree with your conclusion, based on the overall additions/deletions and translation methods being used for the modern versions. I also disagree because I do not dismiss the fact that Satan can corrupt God's word, and has and continues to do so. This is something that is not taken into consideration by the mv camp, and it is futile for them. I also disagree with your view, because God is not the author of confusion, and this is all we see with the mv's. I also disagree with you, because I believe that God has the power to preserve EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDETH OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD, as he promised he would do, and that to which is our very lives - physical and spiritual depend upon. I agree, that many different words have the same meaning, and I do not see a problem with that, UNLESS, it weakens or distorts the intended meaning, such as the words debated on here previously. These may not seem serious on the surface, but they are very serious to the regular common person, who has put their trust upon the rant that these modern versions claim : they are for the benefit of easier reading, and better understanding for the english speaking people of today. I find the opposite of that.

Matthew 12

25 Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how then shall his kingdom stand?
27 And if I by beezlebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.
28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.
30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgement.
37 For by words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

Matthew 11: 25

25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

May the Lord continue to richly bless you all!

Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

Ah, Ed, you mentioned my name. I almost feel important. By the way, my pastor is 74years old and he has always(since he was saved which was at the age of thirteen) been KJB-only(meaning he has always used and only recommended the KJV). His father before him was a preacher, I never knew him but I believe he was KJV-only also. Kind throws out the idea "none beofre 1976". By the way how did you come out with that figure anyway? How do you know it is true? I just proved you wrong on that. Now, maybe not many big named people were KJV-only before 1976, but how can one make such a blanket statement when one cannot possible know?

 

Wooh! I saw Dr. Bob post after me and I though I was in trouble.
Dr. Bob, My pastor would ONLY support the use of the KJV. He only uses it and only supports the use of it. What is the difference? He does not go as far as Ruckman ,and he doesnt hate everyone that disagrees, but he does disagree with anyone using another version as far as I know.(I do hate to be speaking for him as it were.) I havent checked his study but if he has another versionI am sure he would only consider it valuable as a commentary along with Scripture and not as Scripture.

 

CDG, your pastor is in error. Not for the use of the KJB, but by his disagreement with any other English version being Scripture. Perhaps you can ask him to jump into these discussions.

Wanna see him squirm? Ask him to support the KJVO myth with Scripture from the KJV.

 

And he should quote:

John 16:13,Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth:

That's Scriptural!!


1st Corinthians 2:9-10.9.But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10.But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

That's Bible(KJB).


1 Corinthians 2:13-14,
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

That also is Scriptural!!!

But you reject it....Jeremiah 8:9

 

I wonder what the NasV would read like in Germane type? But then of course it wouldn't say the same thing as the 1995 Nasv? Well, we're certain it wouldn't say exactly the same thing as the AV 1611 KJB in Germane type. But it would still be as misleading and confusing the Truth as it does already