2010 Census; Constitutional or not ?

The founding document that of all our elected public servants and service men and women vowed to protect and defend against all enemies foreign and domestic upon taking office.

What should we call those who continually refuse to honor their oath?

Unemployed! :smilewinkgrin:

 

I'm mising the point? No, I think not. You asked why she didn't speak out against the Patriot Act. I was simply letting you know she wasn't in office during the time it was enacted.

You know full well who I'm addressing. My real name? It's Matt Wade. I don't need to hide behind an alias on this board. Of course, I've never been banned and returned another a different alias than my first either.

 

Prisoners of war.

 

Perhaps those states like Montana & Idaho should do more to entice illegal aliens to their area. :laugh:

 

>Rep Bachman, the Constituiton says we must give you a salary, but thats all. Are you going to draw the line and refuse to accept retirement pay, medical plan, free travel, ect, ect...

Washington State Supreme Court (Backenhaus (sp?) decision concluded that retirement benefits were deferred compensation and could not be changed without replacing them
with something of equal or greater value. Sounds reasonable to me.

 

I already got technical. It's real simple maybe that's why you're having so much trouble with it.

"Representatives and direct taxes shall be included within this Union, according to their respective numbers"

"No capitation, or other direct tax shall be laid, unless in proportion to the Census of Enumeration hereinbefore directed to be taken."

The Census of Enumeration was meant to ascertain the number people and prohibit an unapportioned direct tax period. There is no other reason for it therefore there is no constitutional grounds to ask any other questions personal or otherwise even if you don't mind being forced to answer additional personal questions under the color of law or color of office.

I fill out applications of my own free will. I am in no way coerced or forced into doing so. That's my choice. Being forced to answer personal questions under the color of law or office that is none of the government's business is not my choice. "Under color of law or office" in this instance could very well be a violation of the fourth amendment and could be punishable under...

U.S. CODE Title 18, 242

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

SOURCE...

The first enumeration began on Monday, August 2,1790, little more than a year after the inauguration of President Washington and shortly before the second session of the first Congress ended. The Congress assigned responsibility for the 1790 census to the marshals of the U.S. judicial districts under an act that, with minor modifications and extensions, governed census-taking through1840. The law required that every household be visited and that completed census schedules be posted in ‘‘two of the most public places within [each jurisdiction], there to remain for the inspection of all concerned...’’ and that‘ ‘the aggregate amount of each description of persons’’ for every district be transmitted to the President. The six inquiries in 1790 called for the name of the head of the family and the number of persons in each household of the following descriptions: Free White males of 16 years and upward (to assess the country’s industrial and military potential), free White males under 16 years, free White females, all other free persons (by sex and color), and slaves.

SOURCE...



The information found in the 1790 census is as follows. Columns, left to right:

1. Name of head of family
2. Number of free white males 16 and up, including heads of families
3. Number of free white males under 16
4. Number of free white females including heads of families
5. Number of all other free persons, except Indians not taxed
6. Number of slaves

Compare this to the 2010 Census...

• No longer will it be a long form, it will simply ask a few basic questions (such as name, gender, age, date of birth, race, ethnicity, etc.) that will only take a few minutes to fill out
• The 2010 census however does ask more personal questions about the individual and is required by law; (show me this law that requires me to answer these more personal questions Salty) this has raised concerns by individuals who feel it is a breach of privacy and are nervous about personal information being in government hands
• For now on, the more detailed form with the financial backgrounds will be sponsored by the American Community Survey
• Same-sex couples will be counted

SOURCE...


And I agree with Bro Curtis anyone who would post another's personal info should be dealt with straight away.

 

Off topic, but in the interest of this board and the confidence of its membership, I agree with the following:

 

By the way it is against the rules to post even your own personal info.

 

I would suggest to Matt that he use an alias, not out of having anything to hide, but you never know what nut may become a stalker The Internet is wide open, and you should first and foremost protect yourself and your family from anyone who is a bit unhinged and may decide to cause you harm

 

Thread closed:

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