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A Growing List of Mass Murders Around the World!

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by righteousdude2, Dec 15, 2012.

  1. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2 Well-Known Member

    Oct 14, 2007
    Last night, Jay Leno had Tavis Smiley [PBS] on the show to discuss the Sandy Hook shootings. On more than one occasion, Tavis attempted to tie the mass shootings to poverty and even Treyvon Martin(?)! Of course, like with most PBS correspondants and news folks, I just don't see this being the root cause of ALL the mass shootings around the world.

    Granted children and teens in Ghettos and Barrios are more often victims than those in the more affluent neighborhoods, but what he failed to speak about, when he broached the violence in the poor neighborhoods is that the gunmen and killers in the Ghettos and Barrios are more than likely gang members, drug dealers, and an element of society that is reckless and lawless to say the least.

    We also have witnessed a growth in Mexican, Asian, Europeon, Phippipian and Russian drug cartels and mobs, shooting it out in the seedy parts of towns as well as everywhere else they end up depending on their wares to trade and sell.

    The AP compiled an interesting list of mass killings from the Universtiy of Texas clock tower sniper in 1966 through yesterday in Sandy Hook, CT. As you can see, like all sin, the act of killing's large numbers of people is like an out-of-control snowball, rolling down a hill of fresh snow, gathering speed and bulk.

    I believe that Tavis, like so many others in the public sector of media have failed to address the REAL issue. Since we dismissed God and prayer from our schools, things have grown out of proportion and control.

    It is also worth noting that some of the worse killings have taken place in countries outside the USA. Many are countries that have gun control. Others are ruled by terrorists and or dictators. It should also be noted that in places like Iraq, Afghanastan, etc., the killers use bombs to do spread their evil. Then we have the infamous OJ Simpson murders done by a lone killer with a knife.

    It is quite clear to me, that guns, bombs, knivesare not the culprits. People - with evil thoughts, motives and a hunger for power - are!

    So, how do you control evil? Well, I have an idea, but the atheists, agnostics, the ACLU, and non believers would call me a fanatic, and dismiss my thoughts and words as quickly and readily as they did when they fired God and prayer from our school programs with the goal to replace God and prayer with courses in tolerance, political correctness and diversity. And please note that while I may not agree with the premise behind these subjects, when God and prayer are kicked to the curb, these subjects are as useful and helpful as screen door hatches on a nuclear submarine. :laugh:

    SEE the Tavis Smiley interviw at: http://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show/video/tavis-smiley-part-1-121412/1426998/ and Part 2: http://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show/video/tavis-smiley-part-2-121412/1426996/

    List of Worldwide Mass Killings by the Associated Press

    A gunman at a Connecticut elementary school killed more than two dozen people, including children, on Friday. It is among the world's worst mass shootings. Here is a look at some others:

    — Aug. 5, 2012: Army veteran Wade Michael Page kills five men and one woman and wounds three other people, including a police officer, before taking his own life at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin outside Milwaukee.

    — July 20, 2012: Twelve people are killed when a gunman enters an Aurora, Colo., movie theater, releases a canister of gas and then opens fire during opening night of the Batman movie "The Dark Knight Rises." James Holmes, a 24-year-old former graduate student at the University of Colorado, has been charged in the deaths.

    — March 11, 2012: Sixteen Afghan villagers, including nine children, are killed during a predawn attack in which Army prosecutors have charged Staff Sgt. Robert Bales, 39.

    — October 12, 2011: Scott Evans Dekraai, 41, shot and killed six customers at his former sife's beauty salon in Huntington Beach, CA. The former wife was also a victim and two who were wounded succimbed to their wounds in the hopsital for a total of eight people killed in his outrage. Beside wearing body armor, the weapons used in the shooting were a 9mm Springfield, a Heckler & Koch .45, and a Smith & Wesson .44 magnum. NOTE: This was one local Cali shooting overlooked by the AP, so I included it in this list.

    — July 22, 2011: Confessed mass killer Anders Behring Breivik kills 77 in Norway in twin attacks: a bombing in downtown Oslo and a shooting massacre at a youth camp outside the capital. The self-styled anti-Muslim militant admitted both attacks.

    — April 9, 2011: Tristan van der Vlis, 24, fired more than 100 rounds from three guns in a suburban Dutch shopping mall, killing six people before turning one of the weapons on himself.

    — Jan. 8, 2011: A gunman kills six people and wounds 13 others, including then-U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, in a shooting spree outside a grocery store in Tucson, Ariz. Doctors say Jared Lee Loughner, who has been sentenced to life in prison, suffers from schizophrenia.

    — Aug. 3, 2010: Omar Thornton shot 10 people, eight of them fatally, within three minutes at the Hartford Distributors warehouse in Manchester, Conn., before killing himself in what was the worst mass shooting in Connecticut before Friday's school shootings in Newtown.

    — Nov. 5, 2009: Thirteen soldiers and civilians were killed and more than two dozen wounded when a gunman walked into the Soldier Readiness Processing Center at Fort Hood, Texas, and opened fire. Army psychiatrist Maj. Nidal Hasan is charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder.

    — April 30, 2009: Farda Gadyrov, 29, enters the prestigious Azerbaijan State Oil Academy in the capital, Baku, armed with an automatic pistol and clips. He kills 12 people before killing himself as police close in.

    — April 3, 2009: A 41-year-old man opened fire at an immigrant community center in Binghamton, N.Y., killing 11 immigrants and two workers. Jiverly Wong, a Vietnamese immigrant and a former student at the center, killed himself as police rushed to the scene.

    — March 10, 2009: Michael McLendon, 28, killed 10 people — including his mother, four other relatives, and the wife and child of a local sheriff's deputy — across two rural Alabama counties. He then killed himself.

    — Sept. 23, 2008: Matti Saari, 22, walks into a vocational college in Kauhajoki, Finland, and opens fire, killing 10 people and burning their bodies with firebombs before shooting himself fatally in the head.

    — Dec. 5, 2007: A 19-year-old man with a rifle opened fire at Westroads Mall in Omaha, Neb., killing eight people before taking his own life. Five people were wounded, two critically.

    — Nov. 7, 2007: After revealing plans for his attack in YouTube postings, 18-year-old Pekka-Eric Auvinen fires kills eight people at his high school in Tuusula, Finland.

    — April 16, 2007: Seung-Hui Cho, 23, kills 32 people and himself on Virginia Tech campus in Blacksburg, Va.

    — October 2002: The Beltway snipers killed ten people in a three week killing spree. NOTE: This shooting overlooked by the AP, so I included it in this list.

    — April 26, 2002: Robert Steinhaeuser, 19, who had been expelled from school in Erfurt, Germany, kills 13 teachers, two former classmates and policeman, before committing suicide.

    — April 20, 1999: Students Eric Harris, 18, and Dylan Klebold, 17, opened fire at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colo., killing 12 classmates and a teacher and wounding 26 others before killing themselves in the school's library.

    — April 28, 1996: Martin Bryant, 29, bursts into cafeteria in seaside resort of Port Arthur in Tasmania, Australia, shooting 20 people to death. Driving away, he kills 15 others. He was captured and imprisoned.

    — March 13, 1996: Thomas Hamilton, 43, kills 16 kindergarten children and their teacher in elementary school in Dunblane, Scotland, and then kills himself.

    — Oct. 16, 1991: A deadly shooting rampage took place in Killeen, Texas, as George Hennard opened fire at a Luby's Cafeteria, killing 23 people before taking his own life. 20 others were wounded in the attack.

    — June 18, 1990: James Edward Pough shoots people at random in a General Motors Acceptance Corp. office in Jacksonville, Fla., killing 10 and wounding four, before killing himself.

    — Dec. 6, 1989: Marc Lepine, 25, bursts into Montreal's Ecole Polytechnique college, shooting at women he encounters, killing nine and then himself.

    — Aug. 19, 1987: Michael Ryan, 27, kills 16 people in small market town of Hungerford, England, and then shoots himself dead after being cornered by police.

    — July 12, 1976: Edward Charles Allaway, a custodian in the library of California State University, Fullerton, fatally shot seven fellow employees and wounded two others.

    — Aug. 20, 1986: Pat Sherrill, 44, a postal worker who was about to be fired, shoots 14 people at a post office in Edmond, Okla. He then kills himself.

    — July 18, 1984: James Oliver Huberty, an out-of-work security guard, kills 21 people in a McDonald's restaurant in San Ysidro, Calif. A police sharpshooter kills Huberty.

    — Aug. 1, 1966: Charles Whitman opened fire from the clock tower at the University of Texas at Austin, killing 16 people and wounding 31
  2. General Mung Beans

    General Mung Beans New Member

    Aug 1, 2011
    Most mass shootings aren't caused by poverty, but a large proportion of murders in the United States are caused indirectly by poverty and related problems. This is why more than anything else IMO the United States has one of the highest crime rates among industrialized nations-due to the presence of historically disadvantaged minorities and also their cultural values. By contrast, Japan has some of the lowest rates thanks to their population being overwhelmingly homogenous.

    That said, mandating religion in public schools are not going to solve the problem. Children can pray by themselves if they wish but schools leading prayers will cause numerous problems: suppose a Catholic teacher has his or her students say a Hail Mary-how many members here will object to such a thing? Meanwhile forcing students who do not believe to pray is not going to bring them any closer to faith in Jesus Christ. And a century ago while there may have been less mass shootings of the sort seen yesterday in Connecticut (although the largest mass-murder at a school occurred in 1927: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster) there were plenty of murders of various sorts-for example lynchings which no longer occur. In addition the fact is, American crime rates have declined steadily in the last twenty years.
  3. Winman

    Winman Active Member

    Jul 8, 2009
    Poverty had nothing to do with this incident, the father was paying the shooter's mother over a quarter million dollars PER YEAR alimony.

    One thing that has been overlooked is that the shooter was a Goth. Most kids who are into this are harmless, but they do tend to lean toward the dark side, very heavy metal music, magic, the occult, etc... That may have had something to do with the shooter's mentality.

    I think some of it is just wanting to be the fellow with the most notches on his pistol like they used to show back in the old cowboy movies. One fellow kills 10 people, the next fellow wants to kill 15.
  4. saturneptune

    saturneptune New Member

    Jan 16, 2006
    There was also one in 1997 at Heath High School, West Paducah, KY, near where I live. The gunman is still in jail to this date.
  5. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

    Mar 30, 2004
    Let's not rule out the rise in the use of anti anxiety and anti depression drugs. We now have a whole generation that have grown up on these drugs. Most of the anti anxiety and anti depression drugs are known to cause violent and suicidal tendencies in some of the people who take them. We have no idea of what impact this is going have on society in the future but I have a feeling it isn't going to be positive.

    We desperately need a public debate on this issue. Imho.
  6. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2 Well-Known Member

    Oct 14, 2007

    ...this is why I put a few I remembered from Southern Cali on the list too!
    It is a growing problem!