A Huntley Brown Snopes that's a MUST READ

givengrace · Oct 18, 2008

ttp://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/huntleybrown.asp

Has anyone else seen this? Based on this If this man was running for President I could VOTE for him. I just wanted to share. Not only read the letter but the writers comments.

Salty · Oct 18, 2008

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just-want-peace · Oct 18, 2008

givengrace said:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/huntleybrown.asp

Has anyone else seen this? Based on this If this man was running for President I could VOTE for him. I just wanted to share. Not only read the letter but the writers comments.
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Very good!:thumbs:

It does make on wonder why any Christian would be so determined, as some on this board are, to put Obama in office.:tear:

givengrace · Oct 18, 2008

SALTCITYBAPTIST said:

added link from above for direct access
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Did I do something wrong? I do Thank You for your Help. :>)

NaasPreacher (C4K) · Oct 18, 2008

Excellent post, based on solid reasons not to support Sen Obama. Very well put.

windcatcher · Oct 18, 2008

Excellant points and I agree!

t/y for sharing!

givengrace · Oct 19, 2008

Well as I write this there has been 89 looks at this thread and 5 post all of positive nature. And as I look at other of the political Threads there are more posts as to Obama and his Kenya connections or the many things said as to Abortion. Some braced on scripture some braced on self opinion It makes me wonder are you who say you support Obama just not posting to this thread and if so why ? The Bible is used for rebuking can you not rebuke me as to this thread using the same bible or are you choosing not to vote for a candidate through Gods Standards but by your own?

LadyEagle · Oct 21, 2008

Huntley Brown email - Why I will not vote for Obama

E-mail:

First I must say whoever wins the election will have my prayer support.
Obama needs to be commended for his accomplishments but I need to explain
why I will not be voting for him.
Many of my friends process their identity through their blackness. I
process my identity through Christ. Being a Christian (a Christ follower)
means He leads I follow. I can't dictate the terms He does because He is
the leader.
I can't vote black because I am black; I have to vote Christian because
that's who I am. Christian first, black second. Neither should anyone
from the other ethnic groups vote because of ethnicity. 200 years from now
I won't be asked if I was black or white. I will be asked if I knew Jesus
and accepted Him as Lord and Savior.
In an election there are many issues to consider but when a society gets
abortion, same-sex marriage, embryonic stem-cell research, human cloning
to name a few, wrong economic concerns will soon not matter.
We need to follow Martin Luther King's words, don't judge someone by the
color of their skin but by the content of their character. I don't know
Obama so all I can go off is his voting record. His voting record earned
him the title of the most liberal senator in the US Senate in 2007.

NATIONAL JOURNAL: Obama: Most Liberal Senator in 2007 (01/31/2008)
To beat Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton as the most liberal senator, takes
some doing. Obama accomplished this feat in 2 short years. I wonder what
would happen to America if he had four years to work with.
There is a reason Planned Parenthood gives him a 100% rating. There is a
reason the homosexual community supports him. There is a reason
Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Castro, Hamas etc. love him. There is a reason he
said he would nominate liberal judges to the Supreme Court. There is a
reason he voted against the infanticide bill. There is a reason he voted
No on the constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. There is a reason he
voted No on banning partial birth abortion. There is a reason he voted No
on confirming Justices Roberts and Alito. These two judges are
conservatives and they have since overturned partial birth abortion. The
same practice Obama wanted to continue.
Let's take a look at the practice he wanted to continue
The 5 Step Partial Birth Abortion procedures:
A. Guided by ultrasound, the abortionist grabs the baby's leg with forceps. (Remember this is a live baby)
B. The baby's leg is pulled out into the birth canal.
C. The abortionist delivers the baby's entire body, except for the head.
D. The abortionist jams scissors into the baby's skull. The scissors are then opened to enlarge the hole.
E. The scissors are removed and a suction catheter is inserted. The child's brains are sucked out, causing the skull to collapse. The dead
baby is then removed.
God help him. There is a reason Obama opposed the parental notification
law.
Think about this: You can't give a kid an aspirin without parental
notification but that same kid can have an abortion without parental
notification. This is insane.
There is a reason he went to Jeremiah Wright's church for 20 years.
Obama tells us he has good judgment but he sat under Jeremiah Wright
teaching for 20 years. Now he is condemning Wright's sermons. I wonder why
now?

Obama said Jeremiah Wright led him to the Lord and discipled him. A
disciple is one in training. Jesus told us in Matthew 28:19 - 20 "Go and
make disciples of all nations." This means reproduce yourself. Teach
people to think like you, walk like you; talk like you believe what you
believe etc. The question I have is what did Jeremiah Wright teach him?

Would you support a White President who went to a church which has tenets
that said they have a ...
1. Commitment to the White Community
2. Commitment to the White Family
3. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
4. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community.
5. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
6. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the
White Value System
7. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
Would you support a President who went to a church like that?
Just change the word from white to black and you have the tenets of
Obama's former church. If President Bush was a member of a church like
this, he would be called a racist. Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton would
have been marching outside.
This kind of church is a racist church. Obama did not wake up after 20
years and just discovered he went to a racist church. The church can't be
about race. Jesus did not come for any particular race. He came for the
whole world.
A church can't have a value system based on race. The churches value
system has to be based on biblical mandate. It does not matter if it's a white church or a black church it's still wrong. Anyone from
either race that attends a church like this would never get my vote.
Obama's former Pastor Jeremiah Wright is a disciple of liberal theologian
James Cone, author of the 1970 book A Black Theology of Liberation. Cone
once wrote: "Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified
totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and
against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him.
Cone is the man Obama's mentor looks up to. Does Obama believe this?
So what does all this mean for the nation?
In the past when the Lord brought someone with the beliefs of Obama to
lead a nation it meant one thing - judgment.
Read 1 Samuel 8 when Israel asked for a king. First God says in 1 Samuel
1:9 "Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the
king who will reign over them will do."

Then God says
1 Samuel 1:18 " When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the
king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer you in that day." 19
But the people refused to listen to Samuel. "No!" they said. "We want a
king over us. 20 Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king
to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles." 21 When Samuel
heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the LORD. 22 The
LORD answered, "Listen to them and give them a king."

Here is what we know for sure.

God is not schizophrenic
He would not tell one person to vote for Obama and one to vote for McCain.
As the scripture says, a city divided against itself cannot stand, so
obviously many people are not hearing from God.
Maybe I am the one not hearing but I know God does not change and Obama
contradicts many things I read in scripture so I doubt it.
For all my friends who are voting for Obama can you really look God in the
face and say; Father based on your word, I am voting for Obama even though
I know he will continue the genocidal practice of partial birth abortion.
He might have to nominate three or four Supreme Court justices, and I am
sure he will be nominating liberal judges who will be making laws that are
against you. I also know he will continue to push for homosexual rights,
even though you destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for this. I know I can look
the other way because of the economy.
I could not see Jesus agreeing with many of Obama's positions. Finally I
have two questions for all my liberal friends.
Since we know someone's value system has to be placed on the nation,
1. Whose value system should be placed on the nation.
2. Who should determine that this is the right value system for the
nation?
Blessings, Huntley Brown
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It is a true email and the author is true, according to snopes:

http://www.snopes.com:80/politics/soapbox/huntleybrown.asp

NaasPreacher (C4K) · Oct 21, 2008

LadyEagle said:

E-mail:

It is a true email and the author is true, according to snopes:

http://www.snopes.com:80/politics/soapbox/huntleybrown.asp
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Good reasons why I also do not support him.

givengrace · Oct 21, 2008

LadyEagle said:

E-mail:

It is a true email and the author is true, according to snopes:

http://www.snopes.com:80/politics/soapbox/huntleybrown.asp
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Not meaning to Moderate the Moderator. But I posted this Days ago. And have even challenged Obama supporters to rebuke me as of yet they haven't.

givengrace · Oct 21, 2008

givengrace said:

ttp://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/huntleybrown.asp

Has anyone else seen this? Based on this If this man was running for President I could VOTE for him. I just wanted to share. Not only read the letter but the writers comments.
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See Lady Eagle!! :>)

Mexdeaf · Oct 21, 2008

This needs to be pinned at the top in the Politics thread!:thumbs:

NaasPreacher (C4K) · Oct 21, 2008

Merging the two into one

givengrace · Oct 21, 2008

C4K said:

Merging the two into one
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THANKS!!! :wavey:

LadyEagle · Oct 21, 2008

Thanks, Roger. :thumbs:

LadyEagle · Oct 21, 2008

givengrace said:

Not meaning to Moderate the Moderator. But I posted this Days ago. And have even challenged Obama supporters to rebuke me as of yet they haven't.
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Sorry, I didn't see your thread. But Roger saved the day. Still no Obama supporters are rebuking. Why is that?

givengrace · Oct 21, 2008

I guess they know GODS Word doesn't change.

And just like the Serpent in the Garden of Eden. They don't have a Leg to stand on.

JustChristian · Oct 21, 2008

LadyEagle said:

E-mail:

It is a true email and the author is true, according to snopes:

http://www.snopes.com:80/politics/soapbox/huntleybrown.asp
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I would ask this person if President Clinton had her prayer support. Somehow I doubt it.

Bible-boy · Oct 21, 2008

BaptistBeliever said:

I would ask this person if President Clinton had her prayer support. Somehow I doubt it.
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Nice! When you can't debate the substantive issues you can always fall back on the old attack the person/messenger tactic. :tonofbricks:

givengrace · Oct 21, 2008

BaptistBeliever said:

I would ask this person if President Clinton had her prayer support. Somehow I doubt it.
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Well I'm pretty sure this person is a Man. And what Clinton has to do with it I don't know.

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