A legitimate question.

Amen Brother Dr Bob Griffin -- Preach it!

Shiloh:
"And against,
1. The King James Bible
2. Jack Hyles, Sammy Allen and Phill Kidd
3. The Sword of the Lord and The Revival Fires"

Can't say as i've heard of 2 or 3.
But 3 of the ten Holy Bibles on my
computer desk from which i post
are King James Bibles. I like the King
James Bible a lot, but the others are
Godly also.

 

Brother, I'm not wanting to be confrontational, but could you explain the obvious contradiction in these two statements. Do you or do you not feel that Jack Hyles was a Fundamentalist? Why or why not? </font>[/QUOTE]Thanks brother for pointing that out. Please accept my apologies. The point of my first statement was that Hyles gave up the fundamentalist position with his errant positions on soteriology and Scripture, not to mention other issues. He also refused to repent and separate from those who held false doctrine as well as from those who were involved in open and flagrant disobedience. Those marks of a fundamentalist were missing in his life.

As to my second statement, I did not remember making the first. In the second I was referring to the fact that his own personal sins of immorality did not autmotically dismiss him from fundamentalism, apart from his other problems doctrinally and in his associations.

In the end, I do not believe Hyles was a true fundamentalist, but I did not remember saying that in this forum. I think Hyles was a former fundamentalist who abandoned it in favor of his own personal ideals and pursuits. In any case, with respect to this thread, acceptance and approval of Hyles is not a hallmark of fundamentalism and thus, the inital post was in error on that issue.

 

Brothers, Sisters:

Thanks for this enlightening info. I read the works of Jack Hyles back in the '70s. I cut my evangelism teeth on his soul winning books. At the time I was classical Pentecostal and did not believe in Baptist teachings. So I assumed over the years that he was still a favorite of Sword of the Lord and Independent Baptists.

The posts here have shed some necessary light.

Thanks.

Roscoe

 

I am sick of the bickering over men that occurs in IFB circles today. Accept or reject Jack Hyles what do I care (I personally like some things he wrote and reject others)... how does that affect MY walk with God. I have been to First Baptist Church in Hammond, IN on many occasions. It was just like many other IFB churches that I have been to. Hyles was neither a god nor a devil anymore than the next IFB big name. Yes I reject the 100% Hyles crowd. We should not be 100% any man whether it is Hyles, Jones, Rice, Hutson etc. I think that the Bible is clear on this, and it makes us no better than the cults when we do honor men more than God.

“And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, [even] as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able [to bear it], neither yet now are ye able. For ye are yet carnal: for whereas [there is] among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I [am] of Apollos; are ye not carnal? Who then is Paul, and who [is] Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase. Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, [ye are] God’s building. According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.” (1 Corinthians 3:1-11 AV)

Now certainly we reject modernism and heresy, but don't ever insinuate that rejection or acceptance of any man who in your opinion exemplifies the fundemental standard, in any way determines whether I am acceptable in the sight of God or whether I am a true IFB. As Paul said "Ye are carnal". Separation from fellowship over these matters is wickedness.


Chad - a KJV preferred IFB biblicist.