A Person from conception?

I would imagine several of those 56 only pay lip service to being pro-life.

 

From conception? Absolutely.

 

Yes.

Jeremiah 1:4-5 (KJV)
4: Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
5: Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

 

I said yes.
I think there is a person before conception (in God's POV /'point of view', not 'privately owned vehicle'). But that answer wasn't there so I voted 'yes'. :godisgood:

 

I agree that a human is "human" at the point of conception, because... Well, when else would they be?

But how does Jer 1:4-5 apply to this? This just seems to be talking about God's foreknowledge--not when humanity is imparted to the embryo. Actually, it goes back to even before the embryo existed! Certainly you can't be a human before conception! "Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee;".

 

It does speak to the importance of that unborn child. Why would one abort that which God finds important.

 

Every one of us is fearfully and wonderfully made, in His image.

love,

Sopranette

 

I prefer not to think in terms of "personhood" as that debate sometimes includes self-consciousness and other factors that would not apply to an embryo or fetus.

I think that the better term is "life." I believe that life begins at conception and that the embryo is a biological entity distinct from the mother. As such, IMO, the mother does not have the right to end this life.

 

If God already knows the person in the womb and someone murderers the unborn child, what do you think God feels?

The egg is an unborn child.

 

If our mothers had aborted that zygote that formed into an embryo we would not be here today. God would know that we existed. Do not think for a moment that He does not hear those silent cries. He knows and I stand in great fear for this nation. :tear:

 

My point in framing the debate outside of "personhood" is that there are varying definitions of "personhood."

That is an interesting question about the embryo and the resurrection. It goes beyond elective/therapeutic abortion and into the realm of spontaneous abortion as well. Additionally, the issue of embryos that fail to implant emerges. It's an interesting question to which I don't have a perfectly clear answer.

In any case, I find it barbaric to choose to end life.

 

The personality of the Holy Spirit is not analogous to this discussion.

The Holy Spirit is eternal, and he has always existed as he exists now. He has always possessed the characteristics of personality.

If one considers an embryo to be a person, one does so primarily because of the natural process that will later bring about all of the characteristics of personhood. The embryo as such, however, does not have these characteristics yet. This does not mean that we should kill this life, but that there is a qualitative difference between an embryo and a full-grown human being. The Holy Spirit has no such differentiation.