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Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by TomVols, Apr 26, 2010.

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  1. Baptist4life

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    Seems like that would also disprove the statement that: The KJV AND the MV's are BOTH the Word of God? Just askin.
     
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    Not sure what you are trying to say here. The KJVO's are the ones claiming "Things that are different cannot be the same."

    The users of MV's recognize that there are differences yet both are the Word of God.
     
  3. Baptist4life

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    That is totally illogical to me. Therein lies MY problem. Both CANNOT be right, and after years of arguing, no one has PROVEN anything either way. I tend to accept the KJV as the "best" by faith.
     
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    I agree with you 100% here. I cannot prove that the KJV or MVs are the inerrant word of God, I simply believe by faith that one of the versions is, and I side with the KJV.

    The KJV and the MVs are not simply saying the same thing in a different way as the MVs argue, at times they contradict each other, so they cannot all be the inerrant word of God.
     
  5. jbh28

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    I didn't say it can't be accurate, I'm saying that a man mad copy or a man mad translation isn't immune to error.


    Where do you get that there must be an inerrant copy(Genesis-Revelation) on earth that is bound together? I'm glad you admitted that you cannot prove that the MV's or the KJV is inerrant, but where did you get the idea that one of those translations would be? What about before the KJV(since that is the one you chose)? Was there an inerrant Bible before then?
     
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    We keep telling you, but you're not listening- inerrancy is NOWHERE PROMISED TO COPIES OR TRANSLATIONS. If it was required in 1611 (and it obviously wasn't because the 1611 had errors that had to be corrected over the space of 150 years), then God would have required it when Acts 8 was written also.
     
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    The idea that BVT discussions must be KJVO vs MVP discussions is fallacious and proves my point exactly. There are a thousand other worthy subjects, but this one subject eats everything up, and as this thread shows, all threads eventually end up at KJVO Avenue.
     
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    If you do not believe there is an inerrant translation of the Word of God anywhere, tell me, WHERE are the "inerrancies" in each translation? Do you know? How? If you believe there are errors in any translation, but you're not sure where they are, or which translation has them, how do you know WHAT to believe in the Bible? How do you know what's truth? You've just put DOUBT in the mind of anyone reading Scripture! Sad.Your idea, to me, is ridiculous, and it seems to me that anyone with an ounce of common sense would understand that.
     
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    Not all of them. Just 90%. :laugh:

    Personally I don't see anything wrong with that. If anyone else wants to open a thread on another subject they are free to, And is anyone tries to de-rail it, then the mods can take care of that.
     
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    The subject of this forum is the KJVO vs MVP because almost everything ends up there, and lots of worthy posters stay away because of it.
     
  11. Mexdeaf

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    Any errors in any translation would be easily overcome by studying the scriptures as a whole- including the Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic, Latin, etc. That is why I believe God repeated Himself so many times especially in the OT) and the reason that we have so many more manuscripts that testify to the fact that we have God's Word today in many translations.

    Most of the disagreements between versions are man-made (i.e. someone looking to find something wrong) and not doctrinal.

    Now I am going to take a break. Y'all have fun.
     
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    The NT was written under the inspiration of God. He guided the use of the Greek as He is the author of all languages. You can take it up with Him if you think He screwed it up.

    Both are TRANSLATIONS of the original texts. There will be some discrepancies simply for this reason. Some of the source texts used are slightly different, but all are the word of God. Trying to shout that only one is the "true" word of God is like saying that anything that is not a Chevy is not a car.

    Again, both are TRANSLATIONS are there will be differences. Yes, one or the other has to be wrong where they disagree... but you can't say for certain which one if you have any honesty within you at all. You take it on faith, just like we all do. God is a big God and He will handle the details.

    Who said none were inerrant? Definitely not me. I have the inerrant word of God in multiple translations here at my desk. They may be slightly different, but they are all the word of God. Is that so hard to comprehend? God is too big to be put into a box or limited to a single translation.

    Amen, brother. Almost every thread is dragged down to the same level every time. I, for one, am tired of it. The finger of blame cannot be pointed at just one side either as both are guilty of diverting threads back into the mud. I have walked away from the forum several times over the years for this very reason.

    I would go so far as to say all, my friend.
     
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    Since this is a hijack of the OP(and helping to prove his point) I'll start another thread on this subject.
     
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    You do make a good point. It seems like kjv or Calvin just being mentioned in a post will always go to that ending. Sadly, I can get caught up in doing that very thing. I'll try to keep an eye on that....think about the fact that I just posted a response that was doing that very thing.
     
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    At the request of the one starting the thread, we are putting a bullet in it. Thread is hopelessly confused and some seem to be so willingly ignorant that an honest discussion isn't going to happen here.

    Closed.
     
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