A question for those who use the NIV

No sympathy shared as common amongst those who are settled.

How many translations have you made? More than 5????

 

My KJVO brethren are only KJVO in theory, not in practice. Now that is something to think about. End of discussion.

 

Salamander: //The conjecture that demands different
meanings to already established words is the work of satan.//

I take it from 'work of satan' means those who don't drink
from your kewlaid.

 

Finally, we reach the goal.

I don't practice. The theory, as you claim, is a well thought out, tried and true to the test, conclusion.

 

It would be best understood in this train of thought to be the Lord's kewlaid.

It was satan that tried to introduce a different meaning to what had already been established.

His whole ideal was that the woman would have more knowledge in the things that the serpent suggested God didn't want her to know. She was beguiled into thinking she would attain better understanding than her husband.

It's satan's attempt overthrow the Divine order placing man below the woman and thereby take her unawares at her time of frailty and thus be one more step towards exalting his throne above The Throne of the majesty on High.

But!:jesus: Prevailed and still Prevails!!!:godisgood:

 

And now your weather forecast...

Stormy conditions are ahead for this part of BB-land. There's a 90% chance of wind gusts. Thread closures are expected.

Stay tuned for further updates...

 

RE: The Words vs. the message
Unfortunately, there seems to be some ignorance
(not knowing, not a judgemental term) regarding
MAGIC.

magic - the use of words, spells, and rituals in
seeking or pretending to cause or
control events, or govern certain natural or
supernatural forces

'Magic' is a Pagan religion.
A 'witch' is female of the magic religion.
A 'warlock' is a male of the magic religion.

Deuternomy 18:10-12 (KJV1611 Edition):
There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his sonne,
or his daughter to passe thorow the fire,
or that vseth diuination,
or an obseruer of times,
or an inchanter,
or a witch,
11 Or a charmer,
or a consulter with familiar spirits,
or a wyzard,
or a Necromancer.
12 For all that do these things,
are an abomination vnto the Lord: and because
of these abominations, the Lord thy God doth
driue them out from before thee.

So I damn in The Lord's Name (on
the Lord's behalf) such Pagan abominations
as to suggest that God's Holy Written Words contain
mere 'magic', mere 'words' when, in fact, the
very message of God, the message of eternal life;
the Living Word of God: Messiah Jesus, is the
beginning, end and means
of Salvation for mankind. The individual words contain no
magic, but the message the words relay is from God to we
who have accepted THE MESSAGE leading to our own
individual salvation.

Have a nice taste of God's kewl-aid

Getting back on-topic, I used the NIV for ten years of my 55 years
of being a Saved by Grace, Born-again RADICALLY SAVED by Jesus --
I spent ten years studying mainly from the NIV.

Now days I study daily from the
HCSB = Christian Standard Bible /Holman, 2003/
KJV1611 Edition (see the quote above)
KJV1769 Edition

 

You really do need to get back on your meds, as you have often posted. :laugh: :laugh:

Ed

 

Let's be accurate, here. The Southern Baptist Convention did not in any way 'ban' the TNIV. What they (or at least some of them) did was find some disagreements with some renderings, and coupled with the huge amount of royalties necessary to pay the publishers for the usage of it in 'official' Southern Baptist Literature, desired to produce a somewhat similar translation, in an akin vein, where they would not have this financial burden, and commissioned what is known as the HCSB, published by Broadman & Holman, a wholly owned entity of LifeWay which is in turn, owned wholly by the Southern Baptist Convention, so that these very large 'royalties', given the number of pieces of literature published by the SBC, were kept 'in-house', rather than paid to Zondervan, et al. In fact, the HCSB only ranks as #3 or #4 in sales at Lifeway, actually. The NIV is, or at least was, still currently #1 in sales among So. Baptist (LifeWay) bookstores.

Ed

 

I'll contribute a resounding "Amen" to that!

Although I don't think I would go so far as to ban the TNIV, I certainly have no intention of using it. Despite the opinions of some folks, I have a problem with these "gender neutral" versions being published in recent years. The TNIV is one of these. Give me a more literal version like one of the KJVs, the NKJV or the NASB any day. Dynamic equivalence translations like the NIV/TNIV can be useful, but I prefer literalness.

 

I just bought the NICNT on the Pastorals and the TNIV is the text. I have no problem. I think it has done some major improvement as far as translation is concern, not just the NIV.

Even the NASB is gender neutral in some places, even more so than the ESV. But I still prefer the NASB.

 

Bible attack deleted.

 

http://www.bible-researcher.com/tniv4.html

The following resolution against the "Today's New
International Version" was adopted by
the Southern Baptist Convention at their
meeting in St. Louis, Missouri, June 11-12, 2002.

" ... the TNIV has gone beyond acceptable translation standards ... "

The SBC really knows they cannot 'ban' their member churches
from anything -- they can only recommend. For all practical
purposes, the SBC has banned the TNIV; technically they
have NOT banned the TNIV.

 

It is only "banned" in the bookstore, not anywhere else. It was a hypocritical thing to do anyhow. The same translation theory that was used in the TNIV is in the NLT, NRSV, GW, CEV and to a lesser degree the HCSB and ESV all of which are for sale at Lifeway. They have not been truthful about the TNIV and have only managed to make themselves look foolish throughout the entire process. Also let us not forget the profit motive behind coming out with their own translation HCSB as another reason for the supposed ban.

 

My so witty today! What preacher did you steal that one from.

 

sorry....double post

 

LOL.......Why, I made that one up all by myself!.....really though, I'm NOT KJVO, but the NIV is a TERRIBLE translation, and it's published by Zondervan, owned by Rupert Murdock, who also publishes pornography.......

 

I would have to say that is your hope and expectation.

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