A Sellout of Our Unemployed

So even though the work isn't easy...... you admit its not too hard for Mexican immigrants to do? So even though there's not a lot of money doing 'field work' you admit it is honest labor and even immigrants have learned how to feed their families and profit by it?

Well............................... Till about the age of 12, I lived well: Very well by the standards which suddenly dropped when my dad retired from the service and we became a farm family. The youngest of our five children was 6 y/o. We were all old enough to learn about picking peas and okra, loading watermelons, hand picking sweet corn, picking berries, washing jars, shelling peas, shaking down and rounding up the bushels for sale, helping with the canning, slopping the pigs, straining the milk. It was dirty, sweaty work.... but it was honest and it helped to feed the family and kept us in clothes and paid for the roof over our heads. As far as making money? Well, we did it to survive and get ahead..... not for an allowance..... which I never got. And we lived within our means....... which means also that not every dime that could be spent was spent!

IOW, values change. What we had then was a close sense of unity and purpose which was for family and home...... not the selfish independance and individual goals pulling against those which worked for the good of the whole. These are great values which serve each and every member of the family well. And these are terrible values when the state comes in and regulates these values from working within the home...... and then trys to restructure society to impose these values upon its unrelated and diversified members..... as socialism trys to do.

Every child should be given some responsibility and task to do which is beneficial for the family and gives him the sense of accomplishment and through which he develops sharing his time and his labor and hopefully his love, without the promise or expectation of monetary reward. Now, if the family can afford an allowance.... and/or to pay for special tasks if children are capable of doing safely and volunteer for extra work and extra pay..... then by all means do so. If a regular allowance is given, it helps a child to develop a mind for budgets and a sense of his own set of values if parent sits down with child to make 'need' lists and 'want or wish' lists, and the child is reasonably expected to take some of the load of the 'need' list off the parents in return for his having an allowance.... so that he learns the importance of prioritizing his spending and how to budget. He will then not be as shocked by the responsibilities of adulthood when he faces these decisions fully for himself. Also by such sharing in the home, he develops an understanding about what is a reasonable sacrifice for the sake of others and a sense that others are expected and trusted to do the same without his becoming overly demanding of others or developing into a person who is victimized by others abuse through disrespect and use of him. The opportunity for developing relationships and teamwork and understanging is enhanced. Yes......... this is very old-fashioned...... so old-fashioned that few still know how it can work.... and those who are told have little reality or experience with which to compare.

Any labor which is needed has some value. Any labor which is honest deserves respect for the person which does it. Whatever the value of labor's worth, the person who labors at an honest work, deserves respect because it is his choice when his choice could have been different. It should matter more to others in society regarding the character of the person who works honestly, then where he works, or the quality or label of the clothes he can afford, or his customary vanity or appearance, or the fugality or liberalness with which he earns and holds his money, or what kind of car he drives or what kind of house in which he lives.

If, on the other hand, folks are admitting that the farm laborer and perhaps the farmer also is not getting his fair worth for what he does....... then perhaps we should all be willing to pay a little more for our food..... not to the person who transports it or the broker which arranges the logistics.... but for those who take the risk of crop failures, expensive equipment, personal exposures and risks for safety and health, to grow the food, and those who tasks in the hot sun to gather it for the convenience of our table.

 

I believe that governors like Rick Perry are the ones selling out our unemployed.

 

So...obeying the law isn't important, then? Etymology lesson: the root part of "illegal alien" is "illegal."

Engage in racial stereotyping often? It's not becoming.

 

I don't think anyone right now would have a problem with doing field work killing chickens. The way things are right now with the unemployment situation, I have heard many people applying at our office say that they would do anything. Some people have even said they would clean the nastiest toilets in town for a pay check. If I should ever become jobless during this time, I will do the same thing.

I have no problem with legal aliens getting a job here.

I do have a problem when an illegal alien comes to my country, gets a job because he forged all of his documents, gets injured on the job, because he can't communicate properly with the supervisors, because he doesn't know how to speak good English, & ends up getting workers' compensation benefits. That's why I think they should keep the E-Verify system. There is nothing wrong with ensuring that job applicants are legal in this country.

 

>So even though the work isn't easy...... you admit its not too hard for Mexican immigrants to do? So even though there's not a lot of money doing 'field work' you admit it is honest labor and even immigrants have learned how to feed their families and profit by it?

Ya sure, you betcha!

>Well............................... Till about the age of 12, I lived well: Very well by the standards which suddenly dropped when my dad retired from the service and we became a farm family.

Could you have made it without your dad's pension?

I have nothing against, even admire people who live a decent and moral minimalist life style. The Wife and I have always lived below our means and now that the kids are on their own could live well on half our pension.

But most humans opt for creature comforts. Before WW2 half of all Americans didn't have electricity or flush toilets. I imagine that some farm families who were the first to plumb their houses were looked down on as being wasteful and extravigant (sp?) by some others.

100 years ago half the people lived on farms. Now it is less than 5%. When our masters get done destroying the middle class you will get your "Good old days" back. First sign will be this spring when people start plowing the front lawn and planting veggies.