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"Abortion President"

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by tinytim, Mar 7, 2009.

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  1. LadyEagle

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    That's exactly what will happen. The male and female components are sold to banks now, so it stands to reason the fertilized eggs will be for sale, also.
     
  2. LeBuick

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    Yes, not only would I pray but I would thank God for giving us the understanding and knowledge being used. I would think him for the skilled surgeons and his protection places over the recipient.

    It would be no different from a heart transplant or what Jesus did for you, someone died that another might live. There is no greater love.
     
  3. tinytim

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    No.. it wouldn't be the same...

    Jesus GAVE his life freely.. he wasn't murdered...
    and people GIVE their organs by donating.. they are not murdered to harvest them...

    BUT babies in the womb.. or in testtubes do not have the choice to GIVE themselves for us...

    The difference is stark...
     
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    John the Baptist rebuking Herod, Samuel rebuked Saul, Nathan revealing David's act of murder and adultery, Jeremiah rebuking the king of his day among just a few that stood against unbelieving kings (with the exception of David) and government officials for sins of theirs and the sins of the people. They are all our examples to stand against wickedness in high places. If we don't do it who in the world is. And if we aren't going to stand then it is sad to see that the salt has truly lost it's savor and is tossed out and being trodden under the feet of men.:tear:
     
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    I am at a loss for words.

    I can't even begin to comprehend the thought process that would produce such a conclusion.
     
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    So the sacrifice of a child is like the sacrifice of Jesus? Fella, you had better rethink what you have posted here!!!! That is near blasphemy.
     
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    Are you referring to Obama as a heathen? Explain why.
     
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    You sure about that?
     
  9. JustChristian

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    No connection.
     
  10. LeBuick

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    No, what I implied is when it comes to praying for someone receiving stem cell treatment, it would not be the first time someone died that others might live. Death is a part of life we can't avoid. You can take and twist my statement as you will, but that is what I said.
     
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    So then you were saying that unborn that died so the cure could be developed for some future patient held a love for this unknown other that can be described as "no greater love"?

    The unborn feel love for others - so great that they are willing to give up their own life for another?
     
  12. LeBuick

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    I noticed you didn't mention the heart patient whose death allowed another to live. Just the unborn. Are you really pro-life or just anti-abortion?
     
  13. tinytim

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    I am absolutely 110% sure Jesus wasn't murdered.. but laid down his life.
    He had the power to lay it down and raise it up...

    I am really surprised that YOU would question that....
    That is the pure basis for our Christian faith...


    If a person doesn't believe that Christ freely gave his life for the lost.. they cannot be saved.
    If a person thinks he was murdered.. they do not understand salvation.
    And are not saved...


    I know you know it...

    What are you driving at? You have to have a point I am missing.
     
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    So then you meant that the heart patient had the "no greater love"?

    I'm just trying to make sense of your statement.

    "It would be no different from a heart transplant or what Jesus did for you, someone died that another might live. There is no greater love."

    You are saying that the death of the unborn used for research for a cure is the same as a deceased person donating their heart after their death. But wait, the heart donor doesn't give up his life in order to donate his heart. He donates his heart after his death - so that comparison doesn't hold.

    You are saying that the death of the unborn used for reasearch for a cure is the same as our Lord's death on the cross for us. But wait, Jesus willingly and of His own free will gave up His life for us. The unborn doesn't do that - so that comparison doesn't hold either.

    Why don't you just admit that you really didn't think it through and retract your statement?
     
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    Yep, just another example of the inability of liberals to make a legitimate comparison.
     
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    There is no legitimate comparison on this issue. There are no mitigating circumstances. There is no defense of the indefensible. Any twisting of logic to try to dismiss this as anything but murder does not hold with Biblical principles or the principles of this board.

    I suggest that those who are trying to compare destruction of human life to Jesus atoning death on the cross are walking a very thin line and perhaps need to examine what they are typing before they post.

    I will not close this thread no matter how much muddying of the waters is attempted. Perhaps some need to bow out of this discussion before the new posting rule is violated....it is a very thin line...

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    How about the ones who voted to allow this when they voted for obama, they are doing nothing except furthering abortion, and making it even more horrendous.
     
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    I am just sitting here in disbelief at what I'm reading in this thread. It still baffles me how this kind of discussion can even take place among Christians.

    How can anyone who claims Christ support the deliberate destruction of human life? Creating life for the sole purpose of destroying it is sin, pure and simple. That this would be debated among Christians is sad, to say the least.
     
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    You have more than 5000 posts and you are surprised?
     
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    Not surprised, just unable to come to grips with it.
     
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