Acts 5:30

And no matter what you say the word "and" is still primarily understood as a conjunction and the most often use of the word indicates a "joint or simultaneous occurrence." You can claim that is not true all day long but it is still true and any reasonably intelligent 4th grader knows it!

 

To say that the English word "and" is not a conjunction and can not indicate a "joint or simultaneous occurrence" is what is too limiting. Anyone with a 5th grade education knows that.

 

You have to remember that some of us were using words like ain't unitl the fourth or fifth frade. Even my parents did for a long time.

 

Original: "the LOGICAL translation would be 'slew BY hanging"
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God doesn not goofed! NEVER!

Peter told in Acts 5:30 of what they did to Jesus Christ not of the cause of His death nor even How He died..
JESUS was slew - by them - YES
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JESUS was hanged - by them - YES

it's not connectivity of the word nor the consecutive things happened to Him.. But he is just telling everyone of what they have done to JESUS CHRIST...

 

Yes to a casual reader who have not the Holy Spirit I guess, but because God has tthaught us the Word of God then we'll have the understanding and wisdom to comprehend it..

 

If you'll try to perceive the setting of the event in Acts 5:30, you'll notice that Peter is trying to convey something about what they did to Jesus Christ.. and that's one of the factor in seeing the context don't look on that verse alone but try to comprehend the whole chapter then you'll understand why did Peter told that verse..

 

jane, if I were you I would just quit. You will never convince robycop3 that his failure to understand rather simple grammar means everybody will fail to understand it. He has an agenda, and that agenda is to mock, ridicule, and slander the KJV on every occasion regardless of the truth of the matter.

The KJV is certainly not what the KJVOs claim it to be, but neither is it what robycop3 claims it to be. In my opinion they are "birds of a feather." Extremists who should not be taken too seriously. His hatred for KJVOs has so warped his thinking that he is unable to see or admit the truth. His position is as cultic as the most radical of the KJVOs.

 

I have already posted why I disagree with Robycop3's somewhat severe criticism of Acts 5:30, and now I am going to post that I believe that your appraisal of Robycop3 misses the mark much more radically than does Robycop3’s appraisal of Acts 5:30 and the KJV in general. There is no comparison between the deliberate lies and deception (not to mention the insane delusions) of the KJO’s and Robycop3’s truthful and honest, though somewhat severe, criticism of the KJV. There NOTHING "cultic" about Robycop3, but I can NOT say that about the KJO c [edited by me]. I believe that you owe Robycop3 an apology, and I strongly suggest that you post one right here in this thread.

 

KJV should not be criticized as should no other "true" translations. By that I mean ones that do there best to translate the Bible accuratly. Its not Christ like to pick fights among ourselves we should be trying to win the lost to Christ and true life. "I am the Truth the Life and the Way". There is room for debate. But logical debate not mindless name calling.

 

I am sorry if my choice of words offended you. However, name-calling is not necessarily mindless (that is, unless you believe that Jesus was mindless ), and is sometimes appropriate. In Matthew Chapter 23 we find Jesus doing a whole lot of name-calling:

Mat 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
Mat 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
Mat 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Mat 23:16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!
Mat 23:17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?
Mat 23:18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.
Mat 23:19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
Mat 23:20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.
Mat 23:21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.
Mat 23:22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.
Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Mat 23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
Mat 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
Mat 23:26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
Mat 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
Mat 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
Mat 23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
Mat 23:30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
Mat 23:31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
Mat 23:32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
Mat 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
Mat 23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
Mat 23:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
Mat 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
Mat 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
Mat 23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Mat 23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

 

Fine, robycop3, have it your way. You don't understand simple English so nobody else can either. Have it your way.

Oh, I passed your little comment on to my pastor. He is still laughing. It seems he has encountered your cultic thinking before.

"The greatest impediment to learning is the thought, 'I already know.'"

 

John 10:17-18
Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

This is one of the reasons I prefer "whom ye condemned and hanged on a tree"

HankD