Featured ADD, ADHD, Panic Attacks... Spiritual or Physical problems? Or both?

I have told you nothing except that certain claimed disorders are due to sin and unforgiveness is one of the biggest reasons for them. Every instance in scripture is due to sin.

 

Since i do not listen to thos epeople you mentioned I could not say what they teach, and my guess is you are not telling the truth about them. That being said every instance in scripture where someone suffered what we today call mental illess it was due to sin. Nothing has changed.

 

That is the lies that is being told to the public which there is absolutely no scientific evidence of.

 

March 1999 I had by-pass surgery (5) and during my recovery experienced several attacks of depression which I can only describe as frightful. These .attacks only appeared in the evening about dusk. I recall I wanted to "jump off the world"'. I would tell my wife, come on I need to go for a ride and usually in 10 to 15 minutes I would be ok. I remember one time rolling down the window of the car and hanging my head out so the air could blow in my face. Fortunately these only lasted a week's or 10 days. This was as real as a tooth ache and had nothing to do with demons or "witchcraf''.

 

What a foolish statement. Every disease is a result of sin. We live in a fallen world in fallen bodies.

What sin has a new mother committed that brought about post postpartum depression?

 

Before you accuse someone of lying you should at least investigate the claim. I suspect that you do listen to these people and I suspect that your insistence that mental or emotional illness is caused by a spiritual issue is the result. I suspect also that you subscribe to some of their heresy and in defense you call me a liar. However, because you are to be pitied I will post some Information for you. Whether you read it or not, whether you check the source or not is up to you. But I will say this, you apparently have a very serious spiritual issue yourself.

THE HERESY OF THE WORD OF FAITH MOVEMENT

The following heretical teachings of this Word of Faith Movement are summarized in the Kingdom of the Cults, revised, page 497ff. Below are sixteen heretical statements that define this heresy and demonstrate the importance of adhering to the truth as revealed in Scripture. Scripture which refute these heretical teaching are presented immediately following the heretical teaching.

1. God is a being who stands approximately six feet tall, weighs some two hundred pounds, and looks exactly like a man.

John 4:24, KJV
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.


2. Faith is the literal substance that God used to create the universe, and He transported that faith with His words. Here, essentially, is what God did. God filled His words with faith. He used His words as containers to hold His faith and contain that spiritual force and transport it out there into the vast darkness by saying, ‘light, be’! That's the way God transported His faith causing creation and transformation. The way that He created the world was that, first of all, he conceived something on the inside of Him. He conceived, He had an image, He had a picture.

Psalms 33:6, KJV
6 By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.

Revelation 4:11, KJV
11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.


3. All things, including God, are subject to this ‘force of faith’ because it works according to spiritual ‘laws’ of the universe. There are laws of the world of the spirit.... The spiritual world and its laws are more powerful than the physical world .... The world and the physical forces governing it were created by the power of faith--a spiritual force. ..... It is this force of faith which makes the laws of the spirit world function. The force of faith is released by words. Faith-filled words put the law of the Spirit of life into operation.

Psalms 135:6, KJV
6 Whatsoever the LORD pleased, that did he in heaven, and in earth, in the seas, and all deep places.


4. The greatest thing God conceived of and created was an exact duplicate of himself. This duplicate god--named Adam-was God manifested in the flesh.

Isaiah 43:10-13, KJV
10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
12 I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God.
13 Yea, before the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who shall let it?[/i][/color][/b]


5. God eventually went to Adam, who was anatomically male and female, and separated the female part from the male part to make a womb-man (woman). Adam named this ‘man with a womb’ Eve. She, like Adam, was a god.

Genesis 2:21-23, KJV
21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.


6. The Fall caused Adam and Eve's divine natures to be replaced with Satan’s nature. They also lost their rights of rulership to planet earth. Even God was barred from having full access to earth because Adam and Eve were under His lordship when they ‘fell’. Through their disobedience Satan became the god of this world.

Psalms 24:1, KJV
1 The earth is the LORD’S, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.

Psalms 135:6, KJV
6 Whatsoever the LORD pleased, that did he in heaven, and in earth, in the seas, and all deep places.


7. God formulated a scheme to take back the earth, but in order to execute His plan He had to find a human who would invite Him (give Him permission) to work within the earthly realm. Finally, God got to a point where He had His plan ready for operation. And He saw a man named Abraham. In return for allowing God to bring the Messiah through his lineage, Abraham received unlimited health and wealth.

Genesis 12:1, 4, KJV
1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father’s house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran.


8. For centuries God visualized Jesus. Then, when it was finally time for the Messiah to come forth, God spoke him into existence through faith in the same way that He had visualized and spoken into existence everything else. Bringing forth Jesus, however, was also dependent upon whether or not Mary would lend her faith to help form the body of the Lord out of the literal ‘Word’ (confession).

Luke 1:26-31, 34, 25, KJV
26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary.
28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
29 And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.
30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.


9. While on earth Jesus was wealthy. He lived in a big house, had a great deal of money, and wore the finest clothes.

Luke 9:58, KJV
58 And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.


10. Although Jesus declared that he walked with God and that God was in Him, he never actually claimed to be God. In fact, during his three years of public ministry Jesus did not stand in a class by himself.... He was ministering on earth as a human being -- a prophet anointed with the Holy Spirit. Jesus remained sinless so He could redeem men from their Satanic natures.

John 10:30, KJV
30 I and my Father are one.

John 5:17,18, KJV
17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

 

Before you accuse someone of lying you should at least investigate the claim. I suspect that you do listen to these people and I suspect that your insistence that mental or emotional illness is caused by a spiritual issue is the result. I suspect also that you subscribe to some of their heresy and in defense you call me a liar. However, because you are to be pitied I will post some Information for you. Whether you read it or not, whether you check the source or not is up to you. But I will say this, you apparently have a very serious spiritual issue yourself.

THE HERESY OF THE WORD OF FAITH MOVEMENT Continued

The following heretical teachings of this Word of Faith Movement are summarized in the Kingdom of the Cults, revised, page 497ff. Below are sixteen heretical statements that define this heresy and demonstrate the importance of adhering to the truth as revealed in Scripture. Scripture which refute these heretical teaching are presented immediately following the heretical teaching.

11. In order to redeem humanity, Jesus had to die spiritually as well as physically. When He died spiritually, he died in the same way that Adam died. In other words, He lost His divine nature and was given the nature of Satan. Jesus’ death on the cross and His shed blood did not atone for our sins. The atonement took place in hell through the devil's torturing of Jesus’ spirit for three days and three nights. Unfortunately for Satan, Jesus was taken to hell ‘illegally’ because He had never sinned. This ‘technicality’ enabled God to use His ‘force of faith’ to revive Jesus’ spirit, restore Jesus’ divine nature, and resurrect Jesus’ body. Through the resurrection process Jesus was ‘born again’.

1 Peter 2:25, KJV
25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

Matthew 26:28, KJV
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Hebrews 9:14, KJV
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Colossians 1:19,20, KJV
19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

John 10:17,18, KJV
17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

12. When a person is born again they experience exactly what happened to Jesus. Their satanic nature is replaced by God’s divine nature. The transformation is so identical to Jesus’ transformation that Christians become little gods (small “g”) and are as much an incarnation of God as was Jesus.

1 Corinthians 8:6, KJV
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Ephesians 1:22, KJV
22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,


13. Because Christians are ‘little gods’, they now have access to the ‘God- kind of faith’, which can be used to get virtually anything they want. Christians, rather than God, have authority in the earth over Satan and sickness and disease. Consequently, believers should never pray God’s will be done.

Matthew 1:9,10, KJV
9 And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias;
10 And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias;

James 4:15, KJV
15 For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that.


14. To obtain specific desires, Christians must do three things: (1) loose the power of the “force of faith” by speaking or positively confessing whatever is wanted (e.g., ‘I am healed’, ‘I am not sick’, etc.); (2) believe that whatever has been confessed will definitely be received; and (3) ignore or look beyond the visible reality (i.e, remaining sickness, low finances, etc.) and continue claiming what has been confessed.

James 4:3, KJV
3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

James 4:12-15, KJV
12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?
13 Go to now, ye that say, To day or to morrow we will go into such a city, and continue there a year, and buy and sell, and get gain:
14 Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.
15 For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that.


15. Everything bad, including poverty and sickness, comes from Satan. God’s people should have a completely blessed life. A Christian not experiencing such a life is either: (1) in sin; or (2) lacking enough faith to bring about what is desired.

John 15:20, KJV
20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

John 16:33, KJV
33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

2 Timothy 3:12, KJV
12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.


16. The power of audible confession is so great that sometimes a person can unknowingly bring tragedy upon themselves by making negative confessions. For example, a woman who is mugged may have actually caused that mugging if at any time prior to the experience she made comments like, ‘I live in such a dangerous part of the city that I'm afraid I’ll be mugged’. The woman should have been saying, ‘I will not be mugged’. Similarly, someone who jokingly says ‘I feel like I'm going crazy’ may actually become insane.

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The above 16 points show how the Word of Faith teachers have corrupted the truth contained in the Word of God into gross heresy. I cannot say that all those caught up in the Word of Faith movement are unsaved but they are surely following heretical teachings.

 

There should be NO guilt!

I have similar problems. They are as much physical as they are emotional, and with counseling and medication, you can gain the upper hand!

This by no means that we should ignore prayerful counseling and help. The pray should be our first attempt to find help, and prayer should continue for as ong as you need it to cope with the problem and that includes counseling and medication.

Let NO one shame you. It is a thorn, and I would study 2 Cor. 2:1-10, and commit it to memory. If Paul had a thorn that God did not remove, it shoud signal us with phsycial or emotional problems, that God is going to be greater than the thorn and HIS grace is more than sufficient in getting us through!

I have not read the other comments, brother, I am merely responding to your question, and I want you to know I am adding you to my prayer list, and entrusting these problems to God along with you, and we both know that Jesus told us in Matthew 18:19-20 where two of more gather in His name, and pray, not only will He be there with us, He will do it for us! I'd say that this is a spiritual slam dunk!

You may always have to deal with the panic and anxiety, but, you can rise above it and live with it not letting it control you, because He is greater than and more sufficient than any panic or anxiety you will ever experience!

Shalom!!!

 

What you share....

...is a physically documented problem. It is as real as a toothache, or a heart attack, and certainly has nothing to do with witchcraft!

My dad had by-pass, and suffered similar problems. My good friends husband had by-pass and similar problems.

People of faith need to get a grip. Emotional illness is no different than a physically observable one. They exist, and have nothing to do with a ersons lack of faith; sin in their life or let alone the devil! To say differently is not of God or the Scripture and it is only conjuring up guilt within the persons mind and no less an attempt to pass on lies of the devil to get the person to doubt God's presence in their life!

 

Believers Will Suffer CHRONIC Illnesses!

Sister - everything seems to boil down to being dued by the devil or a form of sin in someones life! Get a life. And by that I mean get a life that is based on the reaity of being a follower of Jesus. Satan and sin is not the answer to everything concerning the believer. Somethings are real, and like Paul's THORN, God does not always choose to remove it! NOw that is Scripture, and anything that doesn't agree with that, is a lie of the devil and a sin, the sin of causing another doubt and tripping up their faith in God! Those that blame sin and the devil for everything that happens in our life are true stumbling blocks to people learning to live with a thorn and apply the fact that god is more than sufficient in our weaknesses, physically and amotionally as well as spiritually! I say this in love, so please do not be offended, like those you may have offended, I forgive you! Shalom!

 

Very well said and also very gracious of you!

 

Till the day he died ....

.... he was fighting mad if woke up or startled while sleeping. It became one of those fight or flight responses, and after spending over a year in the WW2 arena in Germany right before D-Day and his mopping up duty, he came home with PTSD, but they had no name for it than. We just made sure we stood at the foot of his bed, and wiggled his toes, while gently calling his name!

SW is right on ... sorry Judith, but you are so far off base on this that your team has left the stadium, and the lights are about to be turned off!

Thanks SE for your service to this country ... as well as all of my brothers in arms who gallantly fought a non-war in Viet Nam, only to come home and be DISSED-respected by the hippies and "Peace-knicks" of the world [liberals at their disgusting worst].

 

Explain Old testiment Saul. He had the same symptoms. Sin is the issue.

 

You use yourself as an example but it is you who believes in a false doctrine of prayer languages. if you are deceived in one area it is reasonable to assume you are deceived in others as well. Every instance in the bible where someone suffered from so called mental illness it was die to sin. There is absolutely no scientific proof that there is such a thing as mental illness as in chemical imbalances, NONE! So I would say if you want a life you need to believe what the bible teaches and not some snake oil salesman.
So to keep this on track with the OP such claims are spiritual. I am sure that if King Saul of the OT and King Nebuchadnezzar were alive today they would both be diognosed as metally ill and given drugs when their problems were spiritual.

 

The scripture also states that Jesus cast a demon out of an epileptic (a term used in other translations) at the base of the Mount of Transfiguration. It used to be thought that all epileptics were demon-possessed. Do you agree with that prognosis?

 

Besides....

....being the board know-it-all, you are now a doctor? Could it be that you are such a bigot, spiritually speaking, that you wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and bit you on the face!

You need to check you hateful ways in at the door before you start JUDGiNG others on this board.

I have a scripture for you, and so you understand it, I will put it in several different versions. It is from 1 Samuel 4:21 ....

New International Version - [/B]"She named the boy Ichabod, saying, "The Glory has departed from Israel"--because of the capture of the ark of God and the deaths of her father-in-law and her husband."

New Living Translation"She named the child Ichabod (which means "Where is the glory?"), for she said, "Israel's glory is gone." She named him this because the Ark of God had been captured and because her father-in-law and husband were dead."

English Standard Version - "And she named the child Ichabod, saying, “The glory has departed from Israel!” because the ark of God had been captured and because of her father-in-law and her husband."

New American Standard Bible - "And she called the boy Ichabod, saying, "The glory has departed from Israel," because the ark of God was taken and because of her father-in-law and her husband."

King James Bible - [/B]"And she named the child Ichabod, saying, The glory is departed from Israel: because the ark of God was taken, and because of her father in law and her husband."

Sister, I say this out of love .... you are one of those believers that goes bout placing everything that happens in the life and times of other believers at the foot of the devil. This reminds me of the now deceased comedian, Flip Wilson, and his infamous line: "The devil made me do it" Me thinks you giveth to much glory and credit to the devil, and that trait is painting an ugly picture of a sweet person. When you came to the board, I liked what you shared. Now you are off blaming everything we all suffere from, on the devil! What gives??? Out of ove, I rebuke your attitude, bind up your infacuation with the devil, and as far as future fellowship with you, via the board, I write the name of "Ichabod" over your name, until you come to grips with yourself and extend some apologies to the many people who's toes you squashed!

I am not a shrink, but it sure seems that you have a classic case of transferrence ... that is where a person who is suffering from a problem, usually a childhood problem, begins to see that problem occuring in everyone they meet. It's like the cheating husband who is accusing his wife of cheating ... when the truth is, in order to cover his own problem with cheating, he blames his faithful wife of doing what he is doing in order to be free of personal guilt!

Those that go around claiming that spiritual sin is the root of all our problems is what I refer to, lovingly of course, as "Spook fruits!"

So say I to you, "Ichabod" with prayerful pleas that God enlighten you before you go any further off the deep end! :wavey:

 

All the problems mentioned in the OP are legitimate medical and mental health issues, and while I suppose Satan could use them to afflict someone if he wanted to, I can't imagine why he would want to. He has so many other more effective weapons in his bag of tricks.

Next question.

 

I had terrible anxiety attacks and we determined that they were diet related. Once I changed my diet, they stopped.

 

In my dealings with folks who have ADD, ADHD or whatever the acronyms are today, I believe we need to stop medicating these folks with the class of drugs that we're currently using. We are producing a generation of folks with some serious head problems. This is one of the most unnatural things I have ever seen. People shouldn't struggle mentally so much over stupid stuff. But I seriously think this stuff has altered brain chemistry and now we've got a bunch of folks whose brains are so screwed up, that they can't deal with things in a manner "normal" minded people would. They lose their tempers. They get agitated about nothing. Everybody is bipolar. Everybody is suicidal. Everybody has these self-destructive personalities.

God help us because we've created a juggernaut of mental sickness by medicating folks for these things.

I don't EVER remember needing anything except discipline to make me focus on what I needed to do. Now it's easier to just medicate folks. And we're payng the price with a generation of absolutely crazy-minded kids. It is monumentally sad.

I can't even properly describe what I'm seeing in the folks who are now adults who have used that stuff as kids.

It's pretty much the same as I see in people who have been addicted to cocaine or meth. Their heads get messed up.

 

I believe that drugs are often over prescribed for children who may show some symptoms of ADD and ADHD. Use of these drugs may be encouraged by teachers who don't want to deal with problem children!

That being said to deny the existence of mental and emotional disorders is complete and utter nonsense!