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After Neoconservatism

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Feb 19, 2006.

  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    More isolationist manure. We get it Ken. You are an isolationist who hates war and would sell our nation's security for a false sense of peace and to let the rest of the world rot away for the promise of Lindbergh and Chamberain's "Peace in our time". I am not willing to do so.

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    Have you read the article, Joseph? If not, then you don't know what the article is saying. That you call Francis Fukuyama an isolationist proves that you don't understand what he is saying in the article.

    Most people who are not neocons on foreign policy are not isolationists.
     
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    What are they Ken? Would non-interventionist be a nicer word to say the same thing?

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    Look, Joseph, if you aren't going to read the article that this thread is about then please be courteous enough to not comment on something you haven't read.
     
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    What is someone who is not a neo-con in foreign policy? A non-interventionist?

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    Someone that believes that the best foreign policy doesn't include going around poking people in the eye with sharp sticks until they feel like blowing your citizens up. Or someone that believes the best foreign policy doesn't include imperial mobilizations to ensure that another countries resourses are first plundered by internationalist bankers and corporations then the rest handed over to the United Nations and WEFORUM to be harmonized controlled and redistributed by a bunch of commie capitalists?

    Or maybe even someone that doesn't believe the best foriegn policy includes selling out America wholesale to a bunch of commie capitalists in the United Nations as we are doing under Agenda 21 and sustainable development?
     
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    So it was America's fault that 9-11 happened? It was Israel's fault the second intifada occurred? Thanks for that brilliant analysis... :rolleyes:

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    No not at all Joseph. It was the globalists fault and if you bothered to look past the anti conspiracy theorist bias you have long enough to look at the mountain of documented facts on that subject you might even figure out they pulled it off themselves. Which they did. ;)
     
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    No thanks. I prefer looking at what sane people say rather than listen to anti-semitic, mentally insane, anti-American conspiracy theorists like Vladimir Zhirinovsky and Patrick Buchannan for my information. [​IMG]

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    Would someone like to actually read the linked article on comment on it? :rolleyes:
     
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    Not really. Not really worth the time nor energy. :D

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    Then why are you posting in this thread?
     
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    Just to express my opinion that the non-interventionist, anti-neocon, rhetoric expressed in the article is wrong for America and immoral. That is all.

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    Insanity is doing the same things over and over and over again and expecting different results.

    Something I never understood about these supposed anti semites Joseph maybe you can explain it to me. How can semites call other semites anti semites and get away with it? Wouldn't the semites get made at the other semites for calling them anti semites all the time then complaining loudly when the semites take exception to be called anti semitic by semites?

    I just don't get it. [​IMG]
     
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    I will Ken, I'll do it right now. Then maybe we can have a sane discussion cool? :cool:
     
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    Just the same way I, as an American, can call folks like Ward Churchill and Jane Fonda un-American and get away with it. If it is the truth, then say it.

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    I will Ken, I'll do it right now. Then maybe we can have a sane discussion cool? :cool: </font>[/QUOTE]Hey Ken,

    I will now leave you and Poncho to your "sane" conversation where you expound on the evils of neo-conservativism. Who knows...maybe Poncho will actually quote someone really credible like Vladimir Zhirinovsky, Pat Buchannan or David Duke. [​IMG]

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    If you haven't read it, then you don't know what is in it, and, therefore, you should be polite enough to not post on this thread.
     
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    Okay. I love the truth myself Joseph. But a mile high moutain of propaganda, lies, baloney and cheese does not make for very tasty truth sandwich my brother.

    Very often the truth is buried under that vile smelling mountain of garbage spewed forth by self interested people and entities like the Clinton's, Bushies and their international benefactors it's been piling up and it reeks. Few dare to pick up their shovel and start digging. Thank God that some of us brave souls have.

    No one is more anti American than those who would sell us out to the globalists and their commie capitalist system of the new economic order. There. That's the truth and spoke it!
     
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