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After Neoconservatism

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Feb 19, 2006.

  1. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    Ken, between barbs with my good friend JB I have been reading the article. Care if I have a go at translating it? Might take a couple hours. [​IMG]

    Love ya Joseph! :cool:
     
  2. LadyEagle

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    Someone please explain what a commie capitalist is. I under stand what both are, but not the combination. Poncho, care to expound on it?
     
  3. Terry_Herrington

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    Good article Ken; I don't care what Joseph Neocon says! [​IMG]
     
  4. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Neocon and proud of it. [​IMG]

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  5. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    So, Joseph, admits to supporting these items - if he is truly a necon:

    Neoconservatives…

    Want the US to be the world's unchallenged superpower.
    Share unwavering support for Israel.
    Support American unilateral action.
    Support preemptive strikes to remove perceived threats to US security .
    Promote the development of an American empire.
    Equate American power with the potential for world peace.
    Seek to democratize the Arab world.
    Push regime change in states deemed threats to the US or its allies.
     
  6. Terry_Herrington

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    That would translate to, "Fool and proud of it." [​IMG]

    IMHO
     
  7. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    As a realist, I subscribe basically to the following:

    Realists…

    Are guided more by practical considerations than ideological vision.
    Believe US power is crucial to successful diplomacy - and vice versa.
    Don't want US policy options unduly limited by world opinion or ethical considerations.
    Believe strong alliances are important to US interests.
    Weigh the political costs of foreign action.
    Believe foreign intervention must be dictated by compelling national interest.
     
  8. freedom's cause

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    The God of Israel made covenant with Abraham
    and thus with the Jews and He promised them all the land of Israel
    they are the only people He called Mine without
    them we christians could not be saved for salvation is of the Jews thru Messiah Yeshua and
    the Jewish people are the root of our tree we are
    the branches that can easily be cut off the tree
    can live without us I hope we all have an honest
    fear of the Living God the God of Abraham Isaac and Israel and know that what God has said will come to pass in spite of all of us just a reminder poncho
     
  9. poncho

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    Sure no problem. Glad to, dying too actually. :D

    Combination is exactly right BTW.

    This is the new economic world order LadyEagle.

    Through public private partnerships the globalists at the United Nations and WEFORUM (World Economic Forum) along with their enablers, Bush 1 Clinton and Bush 2 along with others like the CFR and Trilaterals have been pushing and using these principles to centralize power and profits into the hands of a few elite through appointed governance under the sweet sounding terms of world peace and sustainability.

    What they've done is combined communism and capitalism and are using it to undermine and abolish national sovereignty and our God given rights and constitution. If they have their way there will be one currency, one religion (earth worship) and one government with an elite ruling class that control all the resourses of the planet including man himself.

    I started a thread the other day on Agenda 21 and Sustainable Development. Without understanding these two programs we assume we are fighting against a whole host of seperate issues when in reality they are all tied together in these two ungodly anti American and anti freedom pieces of legalease.

    By understanding these two programs we can understand the reason we can't abolish abortion, it's tied to the policies under world population control, we can understand why we can't get rid of the anti gunners, it in the policies world disarmament, we can understand why our schools promote homosexuality it's in the policies, world population control gays don't procreate. We can understand why our courts have declared war on God, it's in the policies, Gaia woship. We can understand the Kelo decision, it's in the policies, no right to private property. On and on it's all conected to Agenda 21 and sustainable develpoment.

    That's why they want the to let the UAE control our ports, that's why the Chinese have been industrialized and we are being deindustrailed, that why our jobs are being outsourced, that why illegals are being insourced. That's why there is a global police state being set up, thatswhy our freedoms are disappearing, that's why our congress is powerless next to an all powerful executive, that's why they won't step in an tell the courts they can't make laws from the bench.

    The global elite are setting up a planetary system of feudalism and it all can be traced back to these two policies. Agenda 21 and sustaninable development.

    This is probably the single most important issue facing this nation and the world today yet our leaders won't tell us about it other than to tell us we're crazy, the media won't tell us about other than to say we're conspiracy kooks if we mention it, our churchs aren't going to tell us about it because they've been bought and controlled by the IRS.

    Nobody brings it up during elections, the U.S. confernce of Mayors have signed on to it and they probably don't even understand it, it just sounds good like honey in your ear. If we don't all understand it and soon, we're sunk as a nation and as Christians.

    Hows that did I expound enough? [​IMG]
     
  10. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Poncho,

    You forgot to post a link to an article by David Duke. :D

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  11. freedom's cause

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    Joseph being Jewish is one of the greatest honors that our God could give someone
    but to believe in His Son just adds all the rest
    please pray for us all may God have mercy and
    allow the branches to remain

    Yeshua King of Kings and Lord of Lords forever
     
  12. poncho

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    Okay Joseph if you choose to stay uninformed as to how the world really works then go ahead. Far be it from me to keep a brother in Christ from remaining ignorant especialy one that enjoys and takes such pride in remaining so. :cool:
     
  13. KenH

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    What does that have to do with the article linked at the beginning of this thread? Have you read the article?
     
  14. freedom's cause

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    ken don't be a delusionist become a realist

    northernva.typepad.com/crossing_the_rubicon/israel

    ken poncho join the winning side
     
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    ken H everything all the land belongs to Israel
    and to God's chosen people and it goes beyond today's borders
     
  16. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    I am a Christian, fc. I am on the winning side. I simply don't believe that your eschatology is Biblically true.

    Have you read the article that this thread is supposed to be about? If you haven't, then please be courteous and not post further on this thread.
     
  17. freedom's cause

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    read the bible and believe it what a thought
     
  18. KenH

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    I have/do read the Bible. And I believe it from cover to cover.
     
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    That has nothing to do with this thread, fc. Please show some Christian courtesy.
     
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