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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by evangelist6589, Dec 29, 2014.

  1. LanceA

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    Who do you think the tribulation is for? It is to bring the Jews back to God. Everything is about the Jewish people the 7 years of tribulation
     
  2. Revmitchell

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    When will preterists be held accountable for their errors?

    What s dumb thing to say. And yes you are angry.


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    The saddest thing about the whole pre-trig-rapture-ready-movement is that most do not know the basis for this belief is the John Nelson Darby doctrine of the "parenthesis" Church. Then there is the mistaken belief by many that Israel is still the chosen people of God. Even some who don't believe in the doctrines of Sovereign Election and Grace for Gentiles believe that Israel is still the elect of God. Beyond strange and I believe that at the present time Haggee is the worst of the lot!

    Just found an interesting remark attributed to Lindsey:

     
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  4. evangelist6589

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    Did any of you actually read the book????????? The preterists probably not because of fear it could change their views. Escape the coming night was good but this one may be better. I say read this lay level book combined with MacArthur's commentary on Revelation and bingo your views are changed.
     
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    ....only after two out of every three Jews are killed during the tribulation, right?

    And, "Everything is about the Jewish people" is precisely what dispensationalism has morphed into on the whole.
     
  6. Grasshopper

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    You just contradicted yourself:

    I believe sometimes they just think with their head instead of letting HS guide them

    Perhaps you can point us to others scriptures that weren't guided by the Holy Spirit.
     
  7. Grasshopper

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    Point me to books over the decades written by Preterist that had errors of false predictions in them, Mr. Happy.

    I don't expect to get an answer.
     
  8. Revmitchell

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    Hey there grumpypants, trying to tie all those who made bad predictions to dispensationalism and even especially Jeremiah is false. Grow up
     
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    As I suspected, a response but no answer.
     
  10. Revmitchell

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    Really? That is all you got? You start with a false premise by making false claims of association thereby accusing someone of something they never did and this is all you got?


    I suppose I cannot expect anything else.
     
  11. OldRegular

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    Pre-trib-rapture-ready-dispensationalism is false doctrine. A couple of books by those who hold this false doctrine is not going to change anyone who holds the correct Biblical doctrine. In fact the classic pre-trib-dispensationalism is morphing into something called progressive dispensationalism which takes a more Biblical view of the Church for which Jesus Christ died.

    Note: Emphasis in the following quote is mine!

     
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  12. Grasshopper

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    Yet another non-answer.
     
  13. LanceA

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    I'm not talking about the bible. Referring to modern day ministers writing books
     
  14. OldRegular

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    I will say this KY. These pre-trib-rapture-ready folks are really hard on the Jews whom they still call God's chosen people! Recently some Jew down in Florida took them to task for trying to hurry up the "grrreat tribulation" and the suffering of the Jews. Can't find his remarks on the internet. Perhaps they scrubbed them or him!

    You must remember that the basis for John Nelson Darby's pre-trib-dispensationalism is that the Church, for which Jesus Christ died, is only a "parenthesis", an "interruption", an "intercalation", in God's plan for Israel.
     
  15. Grasshopper

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    But you said this,

    "If I remember correctly, the Apostles thought it was in their time as well."


    1. So, why did they think a "coming" would happen in their time?

    2. We're they inspired when they wrote those things concerning the soon to be coming?
     
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    The thread is called "Agents of the Apocalypse" which you have not read yet can air your opinions. Sad... Please read the thread and the book before you post.


     
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    Nobody wants to play? :laugh:

    Time to start issuing rabbits.
     
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