All Baptists Are Republicans!

Judge not that ye be not judged.
I just love it when people play God!!! </font>[/QUOTE]Tinytim, I am perfectly willing to be judged by the same standard in which I judge others.

Carter is a theological liberal. Paul, Peter, and the like, had no problems declaring people lost because of their theology. I am not afraid to do so either. Perhaps you should actually study the bible instead of the latest Max Lucado book.

 

Daniel David,

You make a good point, which must be used with great care and discretion. I would only add that GW Bush is in the same boat with Carter on this.

 

I know. As far as his theology goes, I do not believe Bush is a christian. I believe he uses christian ideals and themes, but still is lost. I have been saying this for years now.

 

He says that he is. Are you calling him a liar? Do you have proof? I.E. you are just like God and can see into the man's heart.

 

Having met the man personally, I can tell you with certainty that he is. But that aside, he has publicly professed that Jesus Christ is his Lord and Savior. Your false claim that he's not a Christian is unrighteously and unbiblically judgemental.

 

Then don't complain. I implore you to reconsider. I, being a naturalized citizen, had to painstakingly earn the right and privilege to vote. I have voted in every election since I became a citizen some 20 years ago. It pains me that someone who has such a cherished right from birth doesn't use it. I believe it to be every Christian's responsibility to vote. If you don't like the candidates on the ballot, write in one that you feel is qualified. But don't pass up voting altogether. Besides, there are countless initiatives, measures, propositions, not to mention mayoral, city council, judicial, school board, and local supervisor elections that are equally, if not more directly impacting than, the vote for presidential office.

 

Then you'd be wrong twice. BW Bush has also publicly stated that he has accepted Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and Savior. And he used those words veratim.

BTW, so has Tony Blair.

 

So what?

 

That's quite a claim you're making. Bush has openly confessesed Christ as Savior and Lord. Only God knows for certain if his confession is real. Yes, he has made some remarks that may reveal some ignorance of doctrine, but he is not a theologian and I would give him the benefit of the doubt. His heart and actions appear to be in the right place. At least we have a President that expresses "Christian ideals and themes."

 

Like gaining the favor of the "Log Cabin Republicans" for making numerous high level appointments of homosexual activists?

Or stacking the administration with pro-abortion pelple who bring their pro-abortion cronies along to fill the government's high levels?

Or giving a "State of the Union" address that entirely ignored the plight of the unborn, while hundreds were murdered in the course of the speech?

Or spening money that the governmnet didn't have, piling up huge debts to be paid off by someone in the future?

Or continuing the Clinton polichy of women in combat, sending mothers and daughters into bloody combat in Iraq?

I'm not going to attempt to judge whether he is a Christian, but I will say that his actions do not reflect it, and if he is, I wish he'd not say so, it brings reproach on the name of our Savior.

 

Amen, BroPJ!

 

PJ,

Our President is not a dictator and cannot stop everything he opposes. He has to work with people from all walks of life. I addressed some of your concerns in the "Politics" forum and I won't go into them here.

What about his support for the "Marriage Amendment" that opposes homosexual unions/marriages?

Christians don't always meet our expectations for what a Christian should be doing OR not be doing.

[ April 06, 2004, 04:11 PM: Message edited by: Jeffrey H ]

 

I'll look there. But there are things that he cold be doing that he is not, and things that he is doing that are very wrong.

 

I vote for the person not the party.This year it will not be for Bush.

 

Judge not that ye be not judged.
I just love it when people play God!!! </font>[/QUOTE]Tinytim, I am perfectly willing to be judged by the same standard in which I judge others.

Carter is a theological liberal. Paul, Peter, and the like, had no problems declaring people lost because of their theology. I am not afraid to do so either. Perhaps you should actually study the bible instead of the latest Max Lucado book. </font>[/QUOTE]So are you saying that Max isn't saved either?
You are not God, or an apostle. Sorry to break the news! You do not know the heart of men, and further more you do not know what I read. I haven't read Max Lucado book for over 2 yrs. But I would still rather read one of his than a Hyles manual.

It is unbiblical to judge your fellow Christian.
I am sorry your view of God is so limited to not include those that you would not want to fellowship with either here on earth, or in Heaven. But you don't get to decide on who goes in. God gave that to JESUS. He paid the Price, you didn't. It is his perogative to let those HE wants in.

I love you brother, but it is a very dangerous thing to place yourself in the place that you think you know others hearts.
Please reconsider your motives.

 

independant. I didnt want to pick either party democrat or republician so i choose independant

 

You have born false witness against another human being. You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

We are already in World War III. The Islamofascists have been at war with Western Civilization beginning with the Iranian Revolution in 1979. The war against the Islamofascists is a global war. It's time that Americans remember what happened on 9/11/01 and stop forgetting it.

And anyone who thinks we can simply retreat inside America and that the Islamofascists would then leave us alone is living in a fantasy world.

 

Nope, and all Baptists ain't Americans either...

G'day

 

And so long as we Christians expect those men to be superhumans, instead of normal humans, this will always be the case.