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American Apathy Will Lead to a Far Larger Death Toll From a Far Larger Bear

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by poncho, Dec 21, 2014.

  1. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    We talk a lot about how the media is a tool for the government to sell a storyline to the American people. We saw it back in the early post 9/11 era when the government was lying to the world about Iraq and we see it today. The media is willing to disseminate any blatant lie the government is dishing out. I want to give you a prime current example because apparently the US government lies regarding Iraqi WMD’s and warehouses of anthrax with our names on them that led to 12 years marked with the completely unnecessary deaths of 4500 American soldiers with another 32000 wounded and 1.5 million Iraqi’s dead, have now been lost on Americans. Ignoring these recent entirely avoidable atrocities are about to lead us to far greater losses as we poke a far larger bear.

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    To believe we went into Iraq because our fearless and integrity driven leaders truly and honestly believed it was the morally and justifiable thing to do based on the tragedy of 9/11 is just ignorance because it does not align with the facts. There was a small group of men, called Neocons, that had derived these military actions some 10 years prior to operations themselves and some 5 years prior to the events that were used to sell these war efforts to the American people and the world. None of that can we change. And so my ultimate point here is to learn from what happened with Syria and Iraq and to show you it is exactly what is happening with Russia today.


    Let me introduce a letter written by Bill Kristol and Donald Kagan to the Heads of State and Government Of the European Union and NATO. The letter was signed by many but of particular interest are many of the same names from the 1996 report and 1998 letter to President Clinton pushing for war against Iraq and Syria. This 2004 letter does not mince its words. It is very much pushing for European support of what would obviously be a US led military stand off with Russia. The letter is sponsored by the American Enterprise Institute, which is a neoconservative think tank. In fact, one of the prestigious awards handed out by the AEI is called the Irving Kristol award. Irving Kristol (father to Bill Kristol) is known as the godfather of the neocon movement in the US. So again this is essentially the same crowd from ’96 an ’98, pushing for support of a US military operation, this time with Russia. This is back in 2004 mind you before the current events in Ukraine had even been imagined (signatories of the attached letter can be found here).


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