Ancestor Racism

Poppycock!

 

"the original ancestors of Arabic, Hamitic, Islamic and Semitic people were African Homo sapiens who evolved from common ancestors of African monkeys and apes are a modern form of ancestral and scientific racism."-----------------------------------------------------------------

Poppycock!

 

No. I have no idea what you are trying to say or what your point is.

 

You just like starting new threads every once and a while on the same topic while still parroting the same useless phrases? To each his own I suppose.

"Evolutionist statements based on neo-Darwinist 'theories' and claims that the original ancestors of Arabic, Hamitic, Islamic and Semitic people were African Homo sapiens who evolved from common ancestors of African monkeys and apes are a modern form of ancestral and scientific racism. "

Oh, there are so many problems here. First off is that you seem to have left a few groups off your list of humans. Like the rest of the population. It is not just some groups that are said to have evolved from a common ancestor with the other apes, it is ALL humans. And all humans are equidistant in relationship from said ancestor.

So it is hard to understand how a theory that says that ALL humans are related to a common ancestor with the other apes and that ALL humans are equally as far removed from said ancestor can be considered to be racists. Maybe you have just been given some bad information. Try reading some real science instead of the pseudoscience you keep trying to peddle and you might begin to understand.

Second, as has been pointed out to you before, not all of the ancestor apes and monkeys were in Africa. Some along the line are known to have lived elsewhere. But a practiced YEer never lets the facts get in the way of a good story, do they?

"All neo-Darwinist attempts to publically, politically and religiously suppress the teaching of all other theories and beliefs about human origins are a modern form of scientific, academic, religious and political facism."

There are no other theories that adequately explain the observations to suppress. There are, however, some false "sciences" out there built on preconceived ideas and ignoring the evidence that needs to be kept out of the public classrooms.

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"No. I have no idea what you are trying to say or what your point is."

Neither does anyone else. He just likes to ramble on while promoting Lubenow's book which, if his posts are any indication of content, goes on for a few hundred pages saying that evolution is racist over and over. A lie repeated often enough tends to become believed, so it is not a bad strategy.

He keeps claiming that there are other ideas in there, with references, but when pressed he is unable to make a single coherent argument based on what he claims to have learned. From this, I too conclude that the work is "poppycock."

 

"At least you honestly admit your ignorance of the subject at the outset."-----------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't think it is ignorance, I think the way you popped on their and the way you presented whatever you are trying to say, is confusing in the way you said it. I am not sure where you are comming form.

 

You keep trying to pull out individual groups.

It cannot be racist if ALL groups are said to have done so. There is no outgroup which can have a basis for racial opinions based on the ancestry of the others. Everyone is in the same boat.

 

Yas. JC's schtick is to say its racist to claim common origin (a) but not racist to claim common origin (b).


The logic kind of leaves ME in the lurch . . .

 

I'm trying to figure out what the issue is. All humans are homo sapiens. The current prevailing scientific theory is that all humans alive today can be genetically traced back in the past to one sole female individual in northern Africa. It's called the Mitochondrial Eve theory, and it has so far held up to the scrutiny of the scientific method. I fail to see any recism in this whatsoever.

 

It's racist because the hypothetical people that would like to say they are descended from Neanderthals (even though none of us are. . .) are being deprived of their rights. I think.

 

Hehehe! There's no genetic evidence to suggest that Homo Sapiens and Homo Neandertalensis merged. That was a theory put forth, but that theory is not standing up to the scientific method. It looks like Sapien and Neandertalensis lived together at the same time, but that Neandertalensis eventually died out on its own.

 

(groan) so now calling the species "homo sapiens" instead of "human species" is being "racist".

Carry on JC we are all mesmerized by the wonderful rationalizations - keep em coming!

Real thinking, however, will also continue, elsewhere.

 

Is this a serious comment?

Let me know which humans today are not homo sapien.

You're no more or less homo sapien than anyone else alive todday. Clearly, your ignocance abounds. All humans are of the Eukarya domain, the Animalia kingdom, the Chordate phymul, the Vertebrate subphylum, the Mammal class, the Primates order, the Hominid family, the Homo Genus, and the Sapien species.

It's incorrect to refer to the "human species". "Human" referrs to the genus, not the species. All members of the Homo genus are/were humans. We are all members of the species "sapien". No other species are alive today.