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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by percho, Apr 18, 2021.

  1. percho

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    the man and his wife, and were not ashamed. Gen 2:25
    < Where was? And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Rev 12:9

    And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. Gen 2:8
    <Where was? And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Rev 12:9

    And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. Gen 1:3
    <Where was? And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Rev 12:9

    And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Gen 1:2
    <Where was? And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Rev 12:9

    In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
    <Where was? And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Rev 12:9


    Open for discussion.
     
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    Was Genesis 1:3 - 31 relative to, "Where was," especially to, "Where was," of verses 2, 1 and if, yes, how id day seven Gen 2:2-3 relative?
     
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    Well I see it is moved to news and current events.

    I can maybe see where it might be, News but current events, well maybe the question of the seventh day in post 2 would make it current events.
     
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    I am not even sure how to browse forums on this site. This forum is not as active as some and "New Post" does not very from day to day. Although most threads I participate in are closed before they get buried.

    I do not understand how a future event Revelation 12:9 can be found in Genesis 1 or 2. There are other OT Scriptures that give the original "account". Jude right before Revelation declares they are still bound. Then John in the 5th Trumpet seems to say they are unbound. Then soon after the 7th Trumpet starts (it is a multiple day sound), Satan and folk are cast out for the last time. Those locust after 5 months, and not being able to kill, must work their way up into heaven itself again.

    If Satan is bound and has to watch for 1000 years, is that his prison term for 6000 years of rebellion that has to be time served?

    Personally, since no one seems to agree, Genesis 2 also portrays a Day of Adonai. That is a Lord's Day associated with Creation itself. A Lord's Day being 1000 years on earth at creation, just like the same Lord's Day when Satan is bound. Satan had 1000 years to watch the sons of God enjoy God's green earth. Only being able to think and do nothing would have driven him mad. That is why he convinced Eve. Once Adam disobeyed, that gave him the case to present to God for his own rebellion. Taking Job into account, Satan had to get permission to rebel. God granted him that option, knowing a third of the angels would follow Satan. It would seem to me they were locked up at the Flood at the latest, as God removed all things about the creation including sons of God on the earth, in that judgment. Only Noah and 7 others were allowed to repopulate a brand new earth, because the old one was destroyed by water per Peter in 2 Peter. God never hinted at a gap in Genesis 1:1. Premillennialism is blamed on Jesuits. Satan probably started the gap theory the same way to sow discord.

    It does not take other humans to accept the last 1000 years after the Second Coming. Just read the book of Revelation. Now it does take humans to make a gap in Genesis 1:1. God did not tell Moses about such a gap. Even the modern translations have changed a direct noun verb sentence structure into a prepositional phrase to add to Satan's gap theory. Creation is not prepositional. It was a direct act and it was done. The gap had to enter human acceptance to make way for evolution and Satan's 14 billion year old virtual reality universe. God created all of current existence almost 7000 years ago, end of story. No prior earth no prior existence. The angels were created on Day 4: the stars also. Moses was to Remember that 1000 years just like the church was to harvest souls prior to the last 1000 years.
     
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    Where was Satan the devil when each of those verses took place?
    Where was Saran when God created the heavens and the earth?
    Where was Satan when the earth was without form and void and darkness was on the face of the deep?
    Where was Satan when God said Let there be light
    Where was Satan when God put the man in the garden he had planted

    Was Satan relative to any of that which had taken place?

    What about the Sabbath the God's rest? Is it relative to Satan?
     
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    Well I would not have put the thread in news and current events, however maybe it should be,

    Where is Satan today?
     
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