Anna Nicole Poll: Does 73000+ views merit fruit?

The Bible says let the dead bury their dead. I reckon that means we can go on debating.

 

I did follow the thread, read your posts, know the Bible passages you quoted, but you lost me with your reign of thoughts. BTW, I do not see it the way you do. Sorry. :wavey:

 

What is it you do not see? If there was "media" back in Sodom & Gamorrah, I believe the lives would have been pretty similar between Lot and Anna. My whole point is we cannot say Anna was or was not saved any more we could say the same thing about Lot without knowing God declared him righteous. We know Lot was declared righteos by God, but had He not, we would have assumed he was burning in hell.

 

Therein lies the big difference between the two. BTW, when it come to the Bible we dare not assume anything.

 

I agree totally, and that was my whole point.

 

OK. Then we are in agreement on something..... :laugh:

 

People say it all the time in movies. Doesn't make it true.

Something I've been thinking since this thread was started. Is fruit judged by how many see you, or by sincerity of heart even when no one sees you?

 

No one can say, "Jesus Christ is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit. 1 Corinthians 12:4

This statement is true. However, we must remember that God can use even a sinner to accomplish His purpose.

Judas Iscariat is an example of God using one who was not saved to accomplish something that would draw many to trust in Christ.

But even there, the life Anna lived did not profess Christ, what lord was she promoting? If you were telling me that 'Jesus Christ is Lord' and were living the life she lived, what kind of Christ would I see?

The devils know who Christ is. The evil spirit in this instance knew who Jesus was, and even acknoledged Christ was Lord... but was not saved.

When we think of the word 'profession', we think of a career.... choosing that career for life. Well, professing Christ is to be a career in the Christian's life and walk.

Anna only acknoledged that 'Jesus Christ is Lord', there was no profession.

 

How true. But it is also true that Bible interprets Bible, so we need to look at Matthew 7:21 (quoted below), in order to get the proper perspective.

 

I think the difference is that no one can call Jesus Lord and mean it from their heart unless it comes from the Holy Spirit, just mouthing the words Jesus is Lord is done all the time, as this verse reminds us, it isn't always true in the persons life.

 

I was thinking about your statement ASLANSPAL and I think I know where you are coming from. I perceived through your posts that you are a thinker, and up to now you approached matters in a predictable way. We can surmise that you believe in that Anna Nicole Smith is bearing fruits (even after her death) because she professed in public that Jesus Christ was her Lord and Savior? Since you are a thinker, let me introduce you another angle here, which heretofore was not covered in any of the posts. Consider the following scenario.

We know from the Bible that God created everything. He created the mighty Pharaoh, who enslaved the people of Israel. Yet God speaks of him this way: "And in very deed for this cause have I raised thee up, for to shew in thee my power; and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth (Exodus 9:16). God was referring to the utter destruction to the power of Egypt and the miraculous exodus of the Jewish people from slavery.

Then consider Pilate in the New Testament, who wrote an inscription to the cross of Christ, "And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS" (John 19:19). Now the chief priests tried to persuade Pilate with the following: "Then said the chief priests of the Jews to Pilate, Write not, The King of the Jews; but that he said, I am King of the Jews" (v. 21), but Pilate refused and said "What I have written I have written" (v. 22). Now, the first convert by reading that sign was the thief on the cross next to Jesus. When one of C.S. Lewis' atheist friend have read the story of the crucifixion he commented, "It sounded so real, it almost convinced me about its truth." This was one of the motivating element in C.S. Lewis' life to investigate and after his two atheist friends, A.C. Harwood and Owen Barfield turned to theism, he was compelled to search the Scriptures and finally come back to his roots (as he was raised in a Christian home) and be saved. And who knows how many countless people were saved by that inscription on the cross since the publishing of the Bible.

So then we can safely conclude that there is no one person on earth who could not be used by God to further His Gospel to the salvation of many. And in this fashion I agree with you that the late Anna Nicole Smith's "profession of faith" may be used as a tool for salvation. Even though I disagree with you that it is counted toward her as fruits. I believe with you that God may save people through that brief testimony, however, I disagree with you that this is done because of Anna Nicole Smith. I believe God may save some through this brief testimony in spite of Anna Nicole Smith. It is done so because the message is greater than the vehicle is being used to convey it.

 

Oops! Just noticed that ASLANSPAL has been banned and he is unable to answer my hypothesis. Sorry.

 

This video just proves that she was as dumb as she was lost.

 

What an ignorant statement. By a video clip you A) know her intelligence level, and B) know she is lost. Give me a break :BangHead:

Stick to the tent making, and leave the role of God out.

 

Although I think the statement may sound harsh, I do not think TentMaker is far off in what he said.

The video did show her foolishly trying to make people think she was serving the risen Savior... all words were only said because she was prompted.

Her lifestyle surely spoke differently of the statement she made. Actions speak much louder than words.

If she thought she was fooling Christians into believing her walk was truly with the Lord, then she certainly was dumb in that respect.

And her walk certainly was the walk of a lost soul.

 

You do not know who is and is not saved. You are not God.

 

No actually what does the most harm is threads that keep this situation and name alive and participation in such. She is dead. Her destiny is set (whatever way). Time to let this one go.

 

I only pray that she was saved...

 

Is she was, then it must have happened as with the thief on the cross. Otherwise it is not possible. The Bible disproves her. :type: