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another bible question on aobrtion

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by UnchartedSpirit, Mar 3, 2006.

  1. UnchartedSpirit

    UnchartedSpirit New Member

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    Someone may have already spoke of this, but I heard that in a past episode, CSI's main character mentions that the Bible recognizes life as being when blood passes through the heart, and that as such maybe a good compromise would be when the fetus begins to develop blood and a heart. Is this true/right?
     
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    Life begins at conception. Is CSI some stupid TV program?
     
  3. Helen

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    By our current definitions of life biologically, the baby is alive at conception.

    Biblically that is also the safest way to go.

    The newly fertilized cell has its own DNA and is replicating by itself. That means it is alive.
     
  4. UnchartedSpirit

    UnchartedSpirit New Member

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    so that passage dosen't matter, oh well another forum told me the heart thing happens around 10 days anyway
     
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    Making excuses for the timing of murder? Based on an insane TV show? Why not ask the Holy Spirit dwelling in you for the answer.
     
  6. UnchartedSpirit

    UnchartedSpirit New Member

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    someone else suggested this...i just don't have any internal thought influence.
     
  7. UnchartedSpirit

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    [Link deleted by Forum Moderator. Sorry but we do not allow links to other message boards.]

    [ March 03, 2006, 07:41 AM: Message edited by: Bible-boy ]
     
  8. PastorBrad

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    What passage? You have given no scriptural basis for what they said
     
  9. UnchartedSpirit

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    i don't know it, you notice...
     
  10. PastorBrad

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    UMMM it may be that a highly secular TV program could be misinterpreting scripture....
     
  11. UnchartedSpirit

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    that could work, but I'm losing to he debate over there...
     
  12. DeeJay

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    Like Helen said, Cells that replicate are alive. They need nurishment, they need oxigen and you can kill them that makes them alive. Plant cells are alive and they never have blood in them. If an unborn baby is alive is not even a question.

    The only question that can be argued is if an unborn baby has a spirit/sole. I beleve it does and there is not evidence or scripture saying it does not.
     
  13. Craigbythesea

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    The Bible does not tell us when life begins. A more critical question for the topic of abortion is, “When does the union of the sperm and egg become a human being?” The Bible does not answer that question either. Neither does the Bible say anything at all regarding voluntary abortions. This is very remarkable considering that in New Testament times abortions were so very common that the Roman government passed one law after another in a largely unsuccessful attempt to reduce their number. Apparently Jesus and His disciples chose to leave the matter up to the secular government and concern themselves with more important matters.

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  14. DeeJay

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    What does the Bible say about killing unwanted todelers. After all the Bible does not say when life starts. Maybe I choose to believe life starts at the age of 12.

    Or maybe killing babys is so evil that it does not even need to be mentioned that it is wrong. Except in general terms like "thou shall not kill".

    So let me get this straight. Anything I want to do that is not specificly prohibited by the Bible is OK.
     
  15. BruceB

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    Well lets see, old Herod now he got rid of "unwanted toddlers" (hey, its in the Bible!) - could one try to make that argument? Of course not, it would be an insane argument, based on something taken from scripture out of context.

    In the OT God declares the Israelite's passing of their children through fire (sacrificing them to Baal) as "detestable" - so it appears to me that God does address the issue, in the Bible, and that killing of children (born or unborn) is detestable. Bruce
     
  16. Tom Butler

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    Psalm 139 is an excellent pro-life passage.
    Isaiah, Jeremiah and Paul said they were set apart before they were ever born.
     
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    Apparently Jesus and His disciples chose to leave the matter up to the secular government and concern themselves with more important matters.

    Yeah, life and death are not major factors in the Bible or in its themes....

    right....
    :rolleyes: :eek:
     
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    Looking at other translations, some might argue this means something else, but I believe it shows that Bible says we were sinful since conception! If that is the case, then even the Bible tells us when we have a soul, because a soulless lifeform cannot be guilty of sin.
     
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    Considering the context of the CSI show, the character may have been referencing Leviticus 17:14. I doubt he was referring to the soul/spirit matter. Just a thought...
     
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