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Another Undeclared War?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Jan 18, 2006.

  1. KenH

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    Imagine that. Another thread about Iran.
     
  3. KenH

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    I'm making up for going along with Bush on the run-up to the invasion of Iraq.

    I stated on this board that I would require a much higher bar for evidence if he started hankering to attack another country, and I am sticking to what I wrote.
     
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    I am sure the President will take your misgivings into consideration! :D
     
  5. fromtheright

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    Oh, I thought you were making up for the paucity of threads on NSA eavesdropping. [​IMG]
     
  6. poncho

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    All the neocons need is a little more "emphasis" Ken, Oh I don't know maybe something like an Operation Northwood?

     
  7. Enoch

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    I am sure the President will take your misgivings into consideration! :D </font>[/QUOTE][​IMG]
     
  8. Matt Black

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    Two problems:

    1. The US doesn't have the military resources to take on Iran long-term in the current political climate.

    2. The Iranian leader, Mahdmullah Ahmalooni or whatever his name is, is a nut job whose version of Holocaust denial seems to be "There wasn't a massacre of the Jews, but there will be...".

    Solution - as Pat has suggested, let Israel do the job. Mr Ahmalooni hates the Jews anyway so no harm done by the Israelis taking out his reactors, no American lives lost or American $s spent, Iranian nuclear program given a very nasty setback.
     
  9. blackbird

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    I'm in Matt's corner on this one! The US armed forces are stretched "to the hilt" with Iraq---plus keeping our eyes on North Korea.

    Threee Army divisions in North Korea

    Three Army divisions in Iraq

    Plus the "Ji-reens"(Marines) spread out over the globe----plus----

    I just know that KenH is "dead set" against the draft---so it looks like he'll get "his way" there----he'll have to keep "paying off" members of Congress to keep it on the back burner with the flame turned down low!!!

    Allied forces fought the Germans to the "Enthed" degree----American forces numbered in the millions with just over 100 Army Divisions on the field---I forget right off hand how many divisions the Brits fielded---and Lord knows how many countless divisions that the "Ruskies" put up against General Jodl---and still Eisenhower did not believe the war winable---in the latter parts of March '45---even when German surrender just around the corner in April!!

    No way----let Israel handle it---it doesn't seem to bother their citizens!!
     
  10. billwald

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    We will probably pay Israel to start the war.
     
  11. blackbird

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    We can "lend/lease" them a few scrap Destroyers like we did the Brits----maybe pitch in a few M1A1 Abrams battletanks and a few A-10 Attack planes----lend/lease---if tank gets destroyed or A-10 gets shot down--they pay us for the damage---after war is won--they return the Abrams and A-10's to us---we'll let them keep the Destroyers "just in case"
     
  12. carpro

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    Oh no! Oh no! Not WND!!!!!!!!

    Haven't you heard? Nothing true or worth reading can come from there.

    I don't know how many times I've heard that on this forum. ;)
     
  13. elijah_lives

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    We're only stretched too thin because we refuse to reinstate the draft.
     
  14. Johnv

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    Broken clocks are still right twice a day. Presuming that the story reported is true, and given the copious times that WND has been misleading in the past, that is the case here.
     
  15. carpro

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    Broken clocks are still right twice a day. Presuming that the story reported is true, and given the copious times that WND has been misleading in the past, that is the case here. </font>[/QUOTE]Truth is where you find it.
     
  16. JGrubbs

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    Compulsory government service is incompatible with individual liberty!!

    Back to the topic of the OP, there were six formal declarations of war by Congress during World War II. Should the administration be allowed to send troops into Iran or any other nation that they choose without a Congressional declaration of war by Congress? Should any president have unlimited war powers to fight the "war on terror" where ever they say it should be fought?
     
  17. Scott J

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    We're stretched too thin because after the Army told Bush 1 they could reduce from 17 to 13active divisions... Clinton appeased his leftist friends by reducing that to 10.

    You might argue that it was justified... but you'd probably have a hard sell with Reserve and Guard families.
     
  18. Brother James

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    Why don't we start acting like christians in this matter and separate ourselves from the wicked governments of this world and stop lending support to them. The very thought of a christian supporting the war in Iraq is beyond belief, much less beating on a drum to get involved in Iran.
     
  19. Scott J

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    No. I sincerely agree. This was wrong in Korea and wrong now. It was justified then to keep the superpowers apart. It is probably justified now to keep us from having to fight a unified Muslim front all over the world.

    Who do you suggest we declare war on over terrorism? Nations that harbor terrorists? Nations that sponsor terrorists?

    Who is first? Our "ally" Pakistan? Do we give them a WWI style of ultimatum or just drop the 82nd Airborne in their northern region to take out Osama?
     
  20. Scott J

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    I am not in support of Iraq nor action on Iran because of their governments. I support it because their leaders threatened the security of the USA.

    Saddam harbored terrorist training camps and publicly pledged his support for terrorism against the US. The Iranians are pretty well rubbing our noses in the fact that they are going to have nukes with which to shift the balance of world power and security.
     
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