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Anti vax totalitarianism is a myth

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Revmitchell, Sep 4, 2021.

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    just wanted to pop back in to give a link about something I referred to earlier:

    Courts Will Rule Against Biden on Vaccine Mandate Penalties: Alan Dershowitz (theepochtimes.com)

    of course, constitutional scholars are going to disagree on a constitutional issue

    yes'um, that's the only way out from here. Any bets on what will happen?

    don't know, remember the Indiana University case, ACB wouldn't even hear it and the students lost every single time up the appeal ladder. However, the Biden matter is different and OSHA is involved, that's could spell trouble for the jackboots

    Where Does Biden Get the Authority To Mandate Vaccination? – Reason.com

    a republic, if you can keep it
     
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    biden is getting used to having his policies ruled unconstitutional. It’s gotten quite common
     
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    Probably. I don't see how he could possibly dictate to private employers what they do.

    This happened to Trump on weekly basis, it seems, but the difference is Trump was not a career politician.
     
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    It didn’t happen to trump on a weekly basis :Rolleyes


    (Folks be prepared for a barrage of links to rulings against Trumps policies. None of which equal what I specifically said and none of which prove a weekly basis)
     
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    From the article:

    “No. 1, is this something the federal government can do compared to the states?” Dershowitz told Newsmax. “States have police power. The federal government does not have police power. The powers of the federal government are to be derived from the text of the Constitution.” It is likely that the courts will say that the government can enforce the vaccine mandate, but will argue that it is only Congress that can order penalties and fines, he said.


    If OSHA can make standards but only Congress can order penalties then how has OSHA been accessing penalties and collecting payments?

    I see there are penalties at the federal and state levels (not really sure how these work).

    OSHA Penalties | Occupational Safety and Health Administration
     
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    Come to think of it, the DOD and DOE fines people for violating traffic rules on their facility. And the IRS, under the Department of Treasury (Executive branch dept) seems to love fines and penalties.
     
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    With IRS, the fines and penalties are according to federal law, not Pres executive orders.

    peace to you
     
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    Honest people know neither president is to blame. That said, I'm not sure the same can be said of Cuomo.
     
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