Any one here believe a full three days, and nights?

I see. I was counting from his death instead of his placement in the tomb.

So you say He was placed in the tomb just moments into the Sabbath in order to be raised on the first day?

I feel that John 19:42 makes it clear that it was the day of preparation still when He was laid in the tomb.

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Because it was the day of Preparation, and since the tomb was nearby, they laid Jesus there.
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Luke 23:53-56 shows that they laid Him in the grave then states afterward that "it was the Preparation day and the Sabbath was about to begin.
Also that the women still had time to go home and prepare the spices but they rested on the Sabbath.

My math may be fuzzy but the available evidence stll has Him in the grave on the day of Preparation, albeit after 3:00.

Further, the disciples on the Emmaus Road told Jesus, late on the first day of the week, that it was the third day since his arrest and crucifiction.

Note that they include his arrest and handing over in this three day time frame.

It seems your 72 hour thesis would have this to have actually been four days.

We must use scripture before math.

MR

 

I did some more math on this to see if the events of a literal 72 hours in the grave jibe with Cleopas telling Jesus it was the third day since His arrest handing over.

Jesus was probably arrested about midnight before His crucifiction. {MacArthur's commentary on Matthew.}

To the time of His being laid in the tomb, allowing your claim of sundown, or 6 PM,
we must add 18 hours, giving us 90 hours.

If, as you say, He was resurrected at sundown on the Sabbath, we must add another 24 hours to the time the disciples met Jesus on the road.

If we knock off two hours to allow for some leeway on the road and in the garden,and to save time arguing over minutes, we have 112 hours.

Four days is 96 hours, so this places us well over four and a half days.

This math does not agree with what the disciples said. The third day was not yet over according to them.

MR

 

I'm not speaking about 4 days in the grave.

I'm saying that Cleopas said it was the third day since Jesus had been handed over.

If you have 72 hours in the grave, then the time frame must have been over four days if you take into account the time consumed before His burial and the time until Jesus spoke with Cleopas.

Your time frame requires at least four days instead of the three that Cleopas told.

MR

 

ittut, if the 10th is our Friday/Saturday, does this make it the Jewish Sabbath?

MR

 

The Sabbath mentioned by John, a HIGH SABBATH, was the Holy Convocation called for in Exodus 12 on the 2nd day of Passover Week. I believe this is the chronology of events:

1.)Jesus ate the paschal meal("Last Supper") Tuesday Eve shortly after sunset, & was arrested shortly after.

2.) He was taken to Annas' home. Annas was the father-in-law of Caiaphas, the High Priest.(Notice the Jews had corrupted that office, as C was High Priest for THAT YEAR. According to GOD, the office was HEREDITARY for AARON'S descendants, held for LIFE.)

3.) Jesus was then taken before Caiaphas.

4.) He was then taken to the Roman Praetorium. (Pilate was doubtlessly cross at being awakened so early.)

5.) Jesus was sent by Pilate to Herod, who was visiting Jerusalem, as Galilee was within Herod's bailiwick, & Pilate had wanted to reconcile himself with Herod, who was displeased with Pilate.

6.) Herod returned Jesus to Pilate for Pilate to pass judgment.

7.) Pilate tried unsuccessfully to change the crowd's minds about Jesus, then yielded to them & gave Jesus up for the cross.

8.) Jesus was alive on the cross from about 9AM to about 3 PM, & was entombed shortly before sunset.

All this took place on TUESDAY, which had begun the previous sunset. Sounds like a lot to cram into 24 hours, right? Well, the garden of Gethsemane, on the Mount of Olives, isn't far from the temple site, and doubtlessly both Annas & Caiaphas lived nearby. And the praetorium wasn't too far away. Herod was almost certainly staying in one of the Roman govt. buildings nearby, so all the moving of Jesus from place to place didn't take long.

As for the Passover...the paschal meal was eaten Tuesday Eve shortly after sunset; the Jews slept and nest morn, still Tuesday, they did all their mundane work in preparation for Wednesday's Holy Convocation, the "high sabbath" mentioned by John. Any Jew will tell you that every special observance day is called a High Sabbath regardless of what day it actually falls on, with all the rules of the ordinary weekly Sabbath being observed, along with the special rules for that particular observance. The Holy Convocation called for in Exodus 12 is such a High Sabbath.

Thus, Jesus was in the tomb Wednesday, Thursday, Friday nights and days, being resurrected Friday eve shortly before sunset. THERE IS NOTHING IN SCRIPTURE SAYING HE WAS RESURRECTED SHORTLY BEFORE DAWN SUNDAY MORN! As Saturday was the weekly Sabbath, the Jews didn't go near any tombs that day, but the women went to Jesus'tomb early as possible Sunday morn. Knowing this was gonna occur, Jesus was waiting for them.

Yes, I fully believe He was in the tomb 3 nights & 3 days just as He said he would be!

 

There are umpteen websites and books which try to place the years of Jesus' birth and of His death/resurrection anywhere from 7 or 8 BC(birth) to 26-33 AD(death). Let's use SCRIPTURE AND HISTORY TOGETHER for an estimate!

Luke says the Annunciation of Jesus' impending birth occurred while QUIRINIUS was governor of the area. This Quirinius (Cyrenicus) was a well-known Roman official, Augustus Caesar's "right-hand man". He was in the Judea area as MILITARY governor to handle a revolt by a group, (Homanadensians)& remained in the area from 10 BC to 7 BC.(He had wisely NEGOTIATED a settlement, thus gaining Rome some allies while avoiding a costly war.)

Quirinius was again in the area as governor beginning 6 AD, and this fact has caused some confusion for some who've read Luke along with an incomplete history of Rome in those days.

BUT...What else occurred in those BC days? After Jesus was born, the magi arrived & told Herod about Him. Alarmed at this possible threat to his throne, Herod planned to kill Jesus, thus initiating His being taken to Egypt, out of Herod's jurisdiction.

The magi had indicated to Herod that they'd seen Jesus' star about 2 years previously.

It's well-documented that Herod died in 4 BC. That would place Jesus' birth no later than late 6 BC. Thus, we have both Scripture and secular history pointing to the time of Jesus' birth.

This leads us to see His death occurred in 28 AD, as the Passover began Tuesday evening that year, and Jesus was in the tomb before sunset Tuesday eve, which was the beginning of Wednesday.

I have already presented a time line in an earlier post of Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday as the 3 nights & 3 days He spent in the tomb.

There is a ridiculous assumption that the "last supper" wasn't a paschal meal, but this is in direct contradiction of Scripture; therefore I entirely reject that silly notion.(Luke 22:15, NKJV...
Then He said to them, "With fervent desire I have desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer;", among other Scriptures)

All secular evidence...let alone JESUS' OWN WORDS...indicate He was 3 nights & 3 days in the tomb, just as He said He'd be.

 

There was the High Sabbath, Wednesday, followed by the regular weekly sabbath, Saturday, which began at sunset Friday. Now, why the women didn't go to the tomb Thursday I have no idea.(or on Friday if your supposition is correct)

However, it seems quite likely that the events took place in 28 AD, and in that year, the FIRST DAY of Passover week was Wednesday. Jesus was in the tomb shortly before Wednesday began at sunset Tuesday. There's no reason why He couldn't have been resurrected and walked to Emmaus, a distance of 7 miles Sunday.