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Apology

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by OldRegular, Jul 18, 2005.

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  1. OldRegular

    OldRegular Well-Known Member

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    The following showed up in my email. I won't identify the supposed source but I thought it was pretty good, especially the comment on Moore.

    This Letter of Apology was written by ************, US Marine Corps, Retired:

    "For good and ill", the Iraqi prisoner abuse mess will remain an
    issue. On the one hand, right thinking Americans will abhor the
    stupidity of the actions while on the other hand, political glee will take control and fashion this minor event into some modern day massacre.

    I humbly offer my opinion here:

    I am sorry that the last seven times we Americans took up arms and sacrificed the blood of our youth, it was in the defense of Muslims (Bosnia, Kosovo, Gulf War 1, Kuwait, etc.).

    I am sorry that no such call for an apology upon the extremists came after 9/11.

    I am sorry that all of the murderers on 9/11 were Islamic Arabs.

    I am sorry that most Arabs and Muslims have to live in squalor under savage dictatorships.

    I am sorry that their leaders squander their wealth.

    I am sorry that their governments breed hate for the US in their
    religious schools, mosques, and government-controlled media.

    I am sorry that Yassar Arafat was kicked out of every Arab country and high-jacked the Palestinian "cause."

    I am sorry that no other Arab country will take in or offer more
    than a token amount of financial help to those same Palestinians.

    I am sorry that the USA has to step in and be the biggest financial supporter of poverty stricken Arabs while the insanely wealthy Arabs blame the USA for all their problems.

    I am sorry that our own left wing, our media, and our own
    brainwashed masses do not understand any of this (from the misleading vocal elements of our society, like radical professors, CNN and the NY TIMES).

    I am sorry the United Nations scammed the poor people of Iraq out of the "food for oil" money so they could get rich while the common folk suffered.

    I am sorry that some Arab governments pay the families of homicide bombers upon their death.

    I am sorry that those same bombers are brainwashed thinking they will receive 72 virgins in "paradise."

    I am sorry that the homicide bombers think pregnant women, babies, children, the elderly and other noncombatant civilians are legitimate targets.

    I am sorry that our troops die to free more Arabs from the gang rape rooms and the filling of mass graves of dissidents of their own making.

    I am sorry that Muslim extremists have killed more Arabs than any other group.

    I am sorry that foreign trained terrorists are trying to seize
    control of Iraq and return it to a terrorist state.

    I am sorry we don't drop a few dozen Daisy cutters on Fallujah.

    I am sorry every time terrorists hide they find a convenient "Holy Site."

    I am sorry they didn't apologize for driving two jets into the World Trade Center that collapsed and severely damaged Saint Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church - one of our Holy Sites.

    I am sorry they didn't apologize for flight 93 and 175, the USS
    Cole, the embassy bombings, the murders and beheadings of Nick Berg and Daniel Pearl, etc....etc!

    I am sorry Michael Moore is an American; he could feed a medium sized village in Africa.

    America will get past this latest absurdity. We will punish those
    responsible because that is what we do.

    We hang out our dirty laundry for the entire world to see. We move on. That's one of the reasons we are hated so much. We don't hide this stuff like all those Arab countries that are now demanding an apology.

    Deep down inside, when most Americans saw this reported in the news, we were like - so what? We lost hundreds and made fun of a few prisoners. Sure , it was wrong, sure, it dramatically hurts our cause, but until captured we were trying to kill these same prisoners. Now we're supposed to wring our hands because a few were humiliated?

    Our compassion is tempered with the vivid memories of our own people killed, mutilated and burnt amongst a joyous crowd of celebrating Fallujahans.

    If you want an apology from this American, you're going to have a long wait!

    You have a better chance of finding those seventy-two virgins.
     
    #1 OldRegular, Jul 18, 2005
  2. OCC

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    :rolleyes:
     
    #2 OCC, Jul 18, 2005
  3. Magnetic Poles

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    This piece, attributed to Lt. Gen. Chuck Pitman, is currently of unconfirmed status on Snopes.com.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/pitman.asp

    It also appears that the ad hom against Michael Moore is a later addition. It is not in the list on Snopes.
     
    #3 Magnetic Poles, Jul 18, 2005
  4. JamesBell

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    Whether Lt. Gen Pitman said it or not, I can assure you that many US Marines (including this one) think along the same lines.
     
    #4 JamesBell, Jul 18, 2005
  5. OCC

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    Maybe you should think along the same lines as Jesus Christ.
     
    #5 OCC, Jul 18, 2005
  6. OCC

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    Actually, I am sorry for that last post of mine. I shouldn't stoop to that level.
     
    #6 OCC, Jul 18, 2005
  7. Magnetic Poles

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    Hmm... an apology on a thread titled apology. Curious.
     
    #7 Magnetic Poles, Jul 18, 2005
  8. Bro. Curtis

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    Matthew 11:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
     
    #8 Bro. Curtis, Jul 18, 2005
  9. OCC

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    MP [​IMG]

    Bro.Curtis, yes I know that verse but it is Jesus, not Christians. Unless you are advocating that we all go buy a sword? Hmm...maybe we should eh? [​IMG]
     
    #9 OCC, Jul 18, 2005
  10. rivers1222

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    KJ,
    No thanks. Many of us already own several weapons much more lethal than a sword. :D

    I dont know if the article is on the up and up or not. However, many points I am in full agreement with. And it boggles my mind, maybe I am a simpleton, but to equate the abuse of terrorists on the same lines as the beheading of civilians, and the suicidal bombings of innocent children, smacks of a political correctness that many Americans, (and I suspect now, some of our British allies), completly reject. This supposed E-mail is written in anger, yes. But, there are many of us out here who are angry. I am a veteran with many friends kids who are over there now. Some on second and third tours. My hope and prayers are that this PC war and attitude wont get them killed.
     
    #10 rivers1222, Jul 18, 2005
  11. Baptist in Richmond

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    Bro. Curtis:

    I am very fond of you, and despite the fact that we do not always agree politically, I enjoy your posts.

    Are you sure that this is found in the 11th Chapter of Matthew?

    A sincere wish for God's Blessings to you and your family,
    BiR
     
    #11 Baptist in Richmond, Jul 18, 2005
  12. LadyEagle

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    You got that right. [​IMG]
     
    #12 LadyEagle, Jul 18, 2005
  13. OCC

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    LOL you guys...some of us are not allowed to own anything more lethal than a play sword. :(

    It bites...but I know the chances of someone who may assault me having a gun are slim to none. I like that.
     
    #13 OCC, Jul 18, 2005
  14. Dragoon68

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    Therein - the disarmed common citizen - is a serious problem some nations are facing.

    Such is believed to have been the reason for the development of martial arts in ancient Japan and China. Using hands, feet, and farm implements was their only way to defend themselves and still they were not true equalizers against the "sword".

    May America preserve the right to bear arms - including rifles, shotguns, revolvers, pistols, etc. - and correct the inroads made against it in modern times.
     
    #14 Dragoon68, Jul 18, 2005
  15. OCC

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    That's interesting. I never heard that before about why martial arts was developed but it makes sense to me.

    Though it would be nice to have a gun to protect myself, what is the point? The chances of anyone assaulting me having a gun are slim unless I live in Toronto or some big city like that.
     
    #15 OCC, Jul 18, 2005
  16. Bro. Curtis

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    Bro. Curtis:

    I am very fond of you, and despite the fact that we do not always agree politically, I enjoy your posts.

    Are you sure that this is found in the 11th Chapter of Matthew?

    A sincere wish for God's Blessings to you and your family,
    BiR     </font>[/QUOTE]Uhhmmmm...no. Chapter 10. Thanx, BIR. [​IMG]
     
    #16 Bro. Curtis, Jul 19, 2005
  17. Baptist in Richmond

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    No problem at all.

    Hope you are doing well out there in Paradise,
    BiR
     
    #17 Baptist in Richmond, Jul 19, 2005
  18. Bro. Curtis

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    It's a little hot, lately, but the mountain run-off is always very cool. Thank you for the kind words. God bless you, BIR.
     
    #18 Bro. Curtis, Jul 19, 2005
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