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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Yeshua1, Apr 15, 2013.

  1. Yeshua1

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    To explore the Doctrines of Grace?
     
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    If its indoctrination ....I'm not for it. But I don't know. Recently I went to a Non-Denom church who wanted me to join & then they would provide the 13 week course....I think Salty said he was doing it prior to joining. Anyway, we as Old Schoolers dont believe in that type of thing, much less SS. We have our reasons.
     
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    I don't understand why some people have a problem with SS. That's really the heart of the church. It's where you can interact personally with other members in a way that can't be done in a congregational setting. It's where you can dialogue and ask questions about scripture. It's where you get to really know people. It's my favorite part of church.
     
  4. Yeshua1

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    What do 'old School" traditionally believe in?
     
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    First, 13 weeks would be for a new Christian.

    At the moment, there is a discussion going on with was started by Evangelist

    He is considering joining a certain IFB church, but there is a situation with baptism.

    I recommended he take a close look at the constitution and articles of Faith.

    The reason I proposed that was it can be a problem for an individual to join a church which has significant differences in doctrine. Likewise, would a church really want someone to join their church if that individual has extremely different views?
     
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    Don't most Baptist churches, like mine, require one to agree with their listed statement of beliefs though in order to have membership?
     
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    Thanks for the reponse, and yes, I do agree, I do believe a pastor's intuition can delay a person joining if he feels it needs further examination or growth on the part of the candidate. What I am totally against as unBiblical is it applying as a general rule to everyone who wants to join. If one wants that, become a Catholic. Being accepted as a member upon professing Jesus Christ is a Biblical and Baptist distinctive.
     
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    Anyone with any common sense would have examined the church bylaws, Constitution, and covenant before even contemplating walking to the altar for membership.
     
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    As a SS director, I agree.
     
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    So who does the teaching & to what age group?
     
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    Isn't that a Bible study?
     
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    In theory yes - In actual practice -for the most part - NO

    Problem is that common sense is not that common

    So what you are saying is that salvation (even before baptism) makes you a (local) church member; with no church vote or any other action.
     
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    Yes. That's what SS is. Why are you against it?
     
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    Teachers? :laugh:

    There are classes for all ages groups. In addition, there are men's classes, women's classes, and mixed. There are also classes for singles, married couples, teenagers and various age groups of children. It all depends on the needs of your particular church and the willingness of people to step up to teach.
     
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    From what I've heard, the Bible does not speak of Sunday School.
    If thats the case, I suppose their church buildings do not have air condition. Wait - there were no church buildings in the New Test.
    Actually the beginning of Sunday School was for this reason
     
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    What is your point? Should we stop having SS? Should we rename it?
     
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    Shouldn't it be the pastor that teaches & if so then why shouldn't he be teaching everyone. Did Jesus ever seperate people?
     
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    I am a full supporter of SS!

    The best way to learn is to teach!
    Did Jesus forbid us to separate people?
    Did Jesus command us not to separate children?

    "When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things" I Cor 13:11
     
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    Yea well....practice on somebody else.
     
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    Finally we agree. I am a big supporter of Sunday School. I think each teacher at our church is a blessing from the Lord and very talented. I like your point about the church building. In fact, if the typical congregation of today was put back in the book of Acts, they would have a heart attack because they could not listen to their cell phone ring interrupt the service, or let their minds wander during the sermon about where they are going to eat. Actually, the only thing they would have is their mouths so they could still gossip.
     
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