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Are You Going to Watch the State of the Union Address Tonight?

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by InTheLight, Jan 20, 2015.

  1. InTheLight

    InTheLight Well-Known Member
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    I'll go first: NO.

    There was a time when I wouldn't miss the SOTU address. Bill Clinton was a masterful speaker during his SOTU addresses. Somewhere in George W's second term I quit watching them.

    Here is a list of 112 promises Obama has made in previous SOTU addresses that have not come to fruition:

    https://grabien.com/story.php?id=20735

    Here are some of my personal fav's:

    2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014
    Pass a comprehensive immigration reform bill.

    2010, 2011, 2012
    Enforce existing immigration laws.

    2009, 2014
    Close the Guantanamo detention center

    2013
    Raise minimum wage to $9/hour
    2014
    Raise minimum wage to $10.10/hour

    2013, 2014
    By the end of 2014 end the Afghan war.

    2011, 2012, 2014
    Lower corporate income taxes, close loopholes.

    2014
    Slash bureaucracy through executive orders.
    Ensure Americans never have to wait more than a half hour to vote.
    End the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
     
  2. Zaac

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    I remember growing up always wanting to watch the State of the Union Address. It was like the Academy Awards for the government.

    And then they all really started to get on my nerves.

    Seeing Cynthia McKinney in front of the cameras during Baby Bush's SOUs really soured me to them.
     
  3. InTheLight

    InTheLight Well-Known Member
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    Yes! It was quite a spectacle.

    I'm trying to define the "jump the shark" moment for me. Maybe it was when Michele Bachmann pushed and shoved her way through the crowd to kiss George W.
     
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    I want to hear a real state of the union address, but for so long now it has been too much of a dog and pony show, so probably not.
     
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    NO, I will read the speech the next day so that I think critically about it. I wish we could go back to the days of Jefferson who just wrote his SOTU and sent it to both houses.
     
  6. InTheLight

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    By dog and pony show, you mean the "special guests" that sit with the first lady and the President namechecks during the speech?

    Here's an interesting tidbit:

    Mr. Obama has the second-worst record of getting his State of the Union policy requests enacted into law of any president in the last five decades, according to an analysis by two scholars that puts him only above the unelected two-year presidency of Gerald Ford.

    From 2009 through 2014, Mr. Obama issued 209 different calls for action from Congress in his speeches, but only saw lawmakers follow through on 64 of them — good for just 30 percent. That’s only slightly better than Mr. Ford’s 28 percent success rate, and is well below the likes of President Clinton, the previous Democratic president, who won 44 percent of his policies even though he faced a Congress more Republican than Mr. Obama has.

    Indeed, Mr. Obama set a single-year record for futility in 2013, just after his re-election, getting Congress to pass just two of the 41 policies he asked them to consider. That’s the worst in the last 50 years, according to the data from Professors Donna R. Hoffman and Alison D. Howard, two political scientists who have tracked State of the Unions going back to President Lyndon B. Johnson’s 1965 speech.

    In 1997, the year after his re-election, Mr. Clinton got Congress to pass 33 of his 57 proposals.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/20/obama-has-worst-state-union-record-ford-study-show/
     
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    No, I have to lead our ladies' Bible study tonight and then I'm going to bed. Between my dad being in the hospital with heart problems and a brain bleed and my son just being diagnosed with the flu, I think it best to not get aggrivated and just get some sleep. ;)
     
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    Are You Going to Watch the State of the Union Address Tonight?

    Why would I? He is positioning himself. He is concerned more about his next tee time and his legacy than anything else.
     
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    Will I watch?

    Well probably but I have to ask myself - why?

    Every time I have been told I have to pay my fair share and that's why my taxes are being raised.

    Why after the first time they were raised to being fair do we need a new fair share every year following??

    Interview with the Tax Collector-in-chief:

    ME: Mr. President what percentage of my income will finally be fair? 50, 75, 95%

    Mr. President: 100%.

    HankD.
     
  10. Getting it Right

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    No. I will not watch.

    :1_grouphug: Let us pray.
     
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    I never watched these lie-fests.

    Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk
     
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    He's Robin Hood.
     
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    NO! UK - Vandy game is on! 18-13 Wildcats lead!
     
  14. HankD

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    OK I tried to watch but fell into a very deep sleep after about 10 minutes.

    HankD
     
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    It was an Orewllian tragicomedy.
     
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    We can watch the liar-in-chief tell more lies anytime.

    Nothing special about any OTU address he would give.

    Just more lies.
     
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    I think that we should go back to that policy of just sending it to Congress in writing--perhaps an e-mail.

    Obama is a poor speaker and he has this dreary left-wing moralistic style where he slowly puts one foot in front of another and just drags it out forever without saying anything. His makeup looked bad and I thought that there was some sort of line on his forehead from the makeup. He never has a new idea or even a new way of saying the same old ideas.

    I thought that the GOP response by Joni Ernest was terrific. She is a star!

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    Scrubbing toilets is higher on my priority list and is also easier on the eyes and ears.
     
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    Nah, didn't watch it, didn't want to watch it, haven't watched it since 2009. It's always just been propoganda, and this year, it's more like a 2016 Democratic Party campaign agenda while I just want to get through the next two years.
     
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