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Article - "Kenya, Islam and Obama Hussein"

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Revmitchell, May 22, 2008.

  1. Andre

    Andre Well-Known Member

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    You're wrong Magnetic "Left Wing Nut Job" Poles (let's speculate that your parents gave you the middle name of "Left Wing Nut Job", hard as that might be to believe). I refer to you as Magnetic "Left Wing Nut Job" Poles simply because that's your middle name. What's the big deal Magnetic "Left Wing Nut Job" Poles? What is wrong with simply referring to you by your name, Magnetic "Left Wing Nut Job" Poles. It's just a name after all.

    :rolleyes:
     
  2. LadyEagle

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    Some of us believe he is a closet muslim.

    Some of us just do not want him for president.

    Some of us remember the left calling a certain person GW.

    Some of us remember a certain person just called "W" (middle name initial).

    Some of us remember a certain person the left called the "little bush."

    Some of us remember a president who went by JFK.

    Some of us remember about a president who went by FDR.

    Some of us believe if BHO was so ashamed of his middle name, he should have changed it years ago. It's legally easy enough and cheap enough to do through the court system.

    Some of us cannot believe there is actually someone named Obama (similar to Osama) and Hussein (Sadam Hussein) running for president of these United States in the aftermath of 09/11 without changing his name, but he has, to quote him, "The Audacity (or maybe it's arrogance) of Hope."

    There. Maybe the big question has been answered for you. I will continue to use his given name, middle and all, and not feel one iota guilty about it. If people don't like it, including BHO, then maybe he should have thought about changing his name from Barack (means blessed in Arabic) Hussein Obama to something else. He must be proud of his name, so why do certain people on here have an issue about those opposed to him using it...other than to try and slander those of us who use it.

    Once again, liberals and conservatives clash on the BB and it has nothing to do with Christ likeness, no matter how much liberals want to use the Bible when it suits them.....(except on abortion, of course).
     
  3. Magnetic Poles

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    Your belief is wrong. Even if true, childish behavior about his name has no bearing on that.
    Then don't vote for him. Campaign for your guy.

    A moniker used by him, his family, and friends to differentiate from his dad.

    But not used in attempts to slander, as ou have admitted to here.

    Why should he be ashamed of having his father's name? Nothing wrong with it. The problem is with using it as attempted slander. Even if he had changed it, you would say he did it to hide his Muslim past.

    Dick is similar to Dock. Bill is similar to Bull. So what. Generals Omar Bradley and Abizaid have Arabic names. Are they Muslim enemies too? Do you see how ludicrous your post is?

    His name has nothing to do with Osama Bin Ladin or Saddam Hussein. Was Jordan's King Hussein friend or foe? Is everyone named Oswalt a potential assassin since it is similar to Oswald?

    How about honest political dialog, rather than immature playground name calling?
     
  4. Andre

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    It would be irresponsible to simply speculate that this is so. And even if he were, you should still not use the middle name - in post 911 US, it is too evocative of Islamic extremism, and I assume that you do not believe he is a Muslim extremist. Again, this is how the world does politics. You and I are called to rise above this.

    Clearly, this does not justify any tactic you wish to employ to achieve your goal. This is how the world does things, not the body of Christ.

    Not at all analogous in almost all these cases. Surely, you do not believe that calling Kennedy "JFK" is the same as calling Obama "Hussein". The readers are not dumb - they know what images are called forth when the name "Hussein" is used. The initials "JFK" or "FDR" have no analogous connotations.

    Perhaps you have a point with "the little bush" or even with "dubya" - both those are somewhat condescending and I would criticize their use right along with you.

    I am not the one you will stand before and have to give an account for yourself. So if you believe that Jesus will say "Yes, Lady Eagle, the way you advocated for your political views in 2008 was in line with my Kingdom values", then all the more power to you.
     
  5. Palatka51

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    I find yours and MP's response to this thread absolutely hilarious. The both of you act as though this type of banter is going to bring Barry's house down on him. When all that it shows is the insecurities of his supporters and also his own. If my name were Charles Manson and I did not like the fact a deviant murder by that name embarrasses me then I would change it. Apparently Barry has those phobias and has at one time preferred to be called Barry over Barak. Now we are not to talk about his ears and his middle name?

    All I've got to say is that the man and his followers need to grow up.

    Meanwhile I'll just go own laughing. :laugh:
     
  6. Magnetic Poles

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    Palatka, you need to learn how to find the point. I am not the least bit concerned or insecure over such tactics and any negligble ffect on Senator Obama. I am pointing out how dishonest and childish his detractors are behavng. So laugh all you want. You obviously are amused by some figment of your own devising. <edited>
     
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    I thought they wanted an honest answer. So I tried. Meanwhile, back to the OP.
     
  8. Andre

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    The kind of closet Muslim who is pro same-sex marriage?

    The kind of closet Muslim that is pro-abortion?

    Boy, those are some pretty liberal Muslims.
     
  9. Andre

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    This statement, of course, does not reflect poorly on Mr. Obama at all. What kind of a leader would Mr. Obama be if he did not protect the rights of all American citizens?
     
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    You better come down off that "holier than thou" soapbox before you get splinters.

    Most of us already have a pastor who preaches to us regularly, rather than at us as you are doing.

    After all, we have Christians here that support those who suppost murder of the unborn. I believe he's getting off light with the middle name. We could just call him "Killer" and be more than accurate.

    I've seen some of your interpretations(to loosely use the word) of scripture. That soapbox is not a place you need to occupy very often, if at all.

    'nuff said.
     
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    Good post, carpro! :applause:
     
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    I dont see how using the name that Obama's momma gave him is going against the gospel? You may personally not like it but it in no way is unchristian.

    AJ
     
  13. Palatka51

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    Oh I see the point that you and Andre are putting forth very clearly.
    Your reaction to that of people using Barry's middle name is what I find amusing. Therefore you are calling all those that address him in his full name, less than Christ like. I, for one, have not addressed him with his middle name disparagingly. I know the feeling of how ones name can effect how you build relationships. You grow out of it.
    The use of Barry's name is indeed something that he seems to cover up sense the days of his youth. From his school days he wanted to be known as Barry instead of Barak. Now he totally rejects Hussein and is embarrassed to be addressed as Barak Hussein Obama. He needs to grow up and the persons of this thread that support him do too. Could you imagine if he had the name of Judas? Now that's a name you just don't give a kid.
    I wonder how William Jefferson Blythe Clinton got through life. You grow up and accept the name your parents gave you.

    Now if you'll pardon me, I think I'll go and dust off that old Johnny Cash album and listen to "A Boy Named Sue". :laugh:
     
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    The name Hussein was chosen by his parents, and since it is a muslim name it gives us insight into how Obama was raised by his parents, and what thier beliefs were....after all, we are all influenced for life by our parents and our upbringing. If your parents gave you "Charles Manson" as a middle name, it would give us some insight as to the mentality of your parents and how you were raised....and it would be very relevant. And it would be disturbing.

    AJ
     
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    Since when? Jesus called Herod a female fox, if you get the point.
     
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    You crack me up. Calling Ann Coulter "Man", and making a comment about her Adam's apple, or calling Rush Limbaugh a pig, man you got a lot of nerve telling folks how to act. That on top of you saying those of us who criticize Obama only do it because we don't want a black president. Then twisting people's words around to make them say something they didn't. You are guilty of all of that. Hardly up to the standards you seem to hold everyone else up to.....

    The best thing about his middle name is how his worshippers act when it is mentioned. I don't care what his name is, but when I see the whining going on about it, I want to say....

    Hussein, Hussein, Hussein, Hussein,
     
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    My post was to M.P., not you. But while you are chiding me about my name calling, why don't you address his, as well ? You seem to be pretty one-sided when telling us how to treat everyone......
     
  18. Andre

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    That's a fair criticism. If MP indeed make the references you claim he made, I would assert that this is not the gospel way. The way of the Kingdom is a hard one.
     
  19. Magnetic Poles

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    Curtis, you are a one song record. You know my comment about coulter ws in response to her making fun of the physical characteristics of Obama's ears, so I pointed out why those in glass houses should't throw stones, by pointing out that she appears to have manish features.

    As for rush...we'll...let me now publicly and with deepest contriteness, apologize ... to any pig, hog, boar, sow, or other swine who may have been offended by my metaphor. I regret any hurt I may have caused for these noble creatures. I am, very truly sorry. Pigs don't call a 14 year old girl 'the White House dog', nor accuse a Parkinson's patient of faking their symptoms.
     
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    If ever a thread on the BB begged to be closed, "from the get-go,", this one accounts for two of them.

    Ed
     
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