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As Baptists CAN We Even have An "Official Position" On Cal/Arms?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by JesusFan, Jun 9, 2011.

  1. JesusFan

    JesusFan New Member

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    Think that we all can come to our own personal take/position on errors like Calvinism/Arminian, but based on our baptist heritage, isn't it true that we would NOT have an OFFICIAL position on such, as that would be based on personal convictionsand interpretation?

    I mean "official" as at the Conference/Assemblies levels, at "headquarters"
     
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    No. Back in the time of Carey there were Particular (Calvinist) and General (non-Calvinist) churches. There always has been. It is not something (like baptism) to split over. During the fight against liberalism and modernism eschatology (for a while) wasn't worth fighting over. One of the most out spoken preachers against the Roman Catholic Church and other forms of modernism, liberalism, and sin was T.T. Shields of Jarvis Street Baptist Church in Toronto. He cooperated with the other fundamental preachers of the time like Frank Norris, Gresham Machen, C.I. Scofield, etc., Most of these were pre-millenialists. But Shields was amillenialist. It didn't stop him from cooperating in the fight against modernism and cooperating with other fundamentalists of that time. Today we let too many things divide us.
     
  3. JesusFan

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    Agree with you on this!

    We split over if Spiritual Gifts opearte today or not, if its pre/post/amil, if its KJVO or not, if its Cal/ARM....

    To me, need to affirm the essentials of the faith, come to common agreement there, and agree to be able to disagree on "grey" areas...

    If you say that God does not work as a Calvinist says, can disagree with you, but that is not an area to split on...

    Now IF you say Jesus was/is NOT son of God, His death does not save anyone, or else Bible JUST same as any other book...

    THOSE issues were splitting over!
     
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    Yes, you could have it in a confession of faith.

    It is what separates the free will baptists from the Southern Baptists.
     
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    So the Reformed baptists are officially Cals
    Free Will offocially Arms

    SBC and most other "mixed" no official stance?
     
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    The SBC takes a partial stance. The BFM2k clearly does not leave room for the belief that salvation could be lost. It therefore excludes full, 5-point Arminians.
     
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    I must inquire, though--why do you ask so many questions?
     
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    Do they exclude from membership or even being in Church?
     
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    That would be up to the individual church.
     
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